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Is there anywhere on the web where you can listen to live local radio?

any1 no were i can listen to live radio stations on the web ?

What is a good web site to listen to AM radio live and free?

How can i listen to Web radio on my mobile? I am hoping to use bluetooth headset to listen to Five Live How do i install a Windows media player on my mobile phone???.

A radio station over the web to listen to live commentry on Scunthorpe V Oldham??

is there a widget for windows sidebar that allows you to listen or stream LIVE uk radio stations? I know that you can in itunes, and probably in windows media player i was just wondering if anyone knows of a widget you can get so i can listen to radio 1 or xfm or radio city ect without having to have tunes open or a web browser open. am assuming you know what JW means? email me via ma profile

VIVIDH BHARATI RADIO LIVE ON THE INTERNET FROM BANGALORE, INDIA? LISTEN TO LIVE VIVIDH BHARATI RADIO ON THE WEB FROM BANGALORE, INDIA: Hi Listen Online to Vividh Bharathi All India Radio, Live on the Web. I run a radio station from Bangalore, India on the Web. You can listen to a Live Digital Satellite feed of Vividh Bharati on the Internet. It is a live broadcast of Vividh Bharati, it is not a recording. A 24 hour live Digital Satellite feed of Vividh Bharati is available to suite listeners across the various Time Zones, right across the globe! All India Radio,Vividh Bharati also broadcasts on FM on 102.90 Mhz. in Bangalore, . To listen to my radio station you have to register on the Global Tuners web site, IT’S FREE ! Their web site is http://www.globaltuners.com/ or else google it, IT’S FREE ! Register on their web site, it’s one of the best in the world, most of their receivers are PC controlled , so that a user can tune and listen to these receivers from his/her own computer, irrespective of where he/she is in the world, a few receivers are audio only nodes, like my Radio Bangalore. After logging in to Global Tuners web site you have to select Radio Bangalore from their list of radios to listen to my receiver. I have a 4 Foot loop antenna some 30 feet off the ground which works pretty good on Medium wave. For FM I have a FM Dipole antenna, which gives excellent reception for the local FM stations Any doubts you can please get in touch with me at daverohitb@hotmail.com Happy Listening Rohit Dave

What are some French things I can listen to on the web? What are some French songs/radios/etc that I can listen to on the web? Living in Canada, French radio and TV are readily available, but the problem is they talk way too fast for me to understand. My IB French teacher recommends for me to listen in order to improve my horrific Anglophone accent while speaking French. Any tips?

how do i listen to a live stream from a clear channel radio station using firefox? i am trying to stream a clear channel radio station using the firefox web browser. the stream won't play. but it will play in internet explorer. so whats the problem?

What is the most popular gospel TV/radio program(s) on web? I am living overseas and tried to listen/watch web radios/TVs for Gospel. I usually found Christian music on the web and very few non-music program (meaning in the form of speech). Can anyone give me some of the most popular http addresses? Thanks

How can I watch or listen to live Test cricket on the Web in the U.S.? Any radio stations that broadcast online from any of the test nations would be welcome. I know the BBC usually blocks its feed to the US during matches -- much to my dismay! So do the Aussie stations. What about India, South Africa, Pakistan, etc.? I'm familiar with ball-by-ball commentary on cricinfo and the like, but I yearn for the voice a human cricket commentator. Anyone? - a desperate, lonely American cricket fan.

Do you like listening to live online radio? Rock fans? I started listening to this radio http://www.kickazzradio.com and wanted to get your opinion on web based radio. I am not spamming, although someone will flag me for it. I think it's kinda neat though... this is my first time listening to this stuff online

Why can't I liten to radio stations live online? What ever site l go to, to listen to the radio online live it says internet explorer cannot display web page and l asked my friend to check to look too and she said it worked fine for her and she lives in Connecticut and lm just wondering if its my computer or the internet server for the web sites. And i try refreshing the page but it still wont pop up is there anything l can do??????

Listen To Vividh Bharati Online? LISTEN TO LIVE VIVIDH BHARATI RADIO ON THE WEB FROM BANGALORE, INDIA: Hi Listen Online to Vividh Bharathi All India Radio, Live on the Web. I run a radio station from Bangalore, India on the Web. You can listen to a Live Digital Satellite feed of Vividh Bharati on the Internet. It is a live broadcast of Vividh Bharati, it is not a recording. A 24 hour live Digital Satellite feed of Vividh Bharati is available to suite listeners across the various Time Zones, right across the globe! All India Radio,Vividh Bharati also broadcasts on FM on 102.90 Mhz. in Bangalore, . To listen to my radio station you have to register on the Global Tuners web site, IT’S FREE ! Their web site is http://www.globaltuners.com/ or else google it, IT’S FREE ! Register on their web site, it’s one of the best in the world, most of their receivers are PC controlled , so that a user can tune and listen to these receivers from his/her own computer, irrespective of where he/she is in the world, a few receivers are audio only nodes, like my Radio Bangalore. After logging in to Global Tuners web site you have to select Radio Bangalore from their list of radios to listen to my receiver. I have a 4 Foot loop antenna some 30 feet off the ground which works pretty good on Medium wave. For FM I have a FM Dipole antenna, which gives excellent reception for the local FM stations Any doubts you can please get in touch with me at daverohitb@hotmail.com Happy Listening Rohit Dave

Vividh Bharati Listen? LISTEN TO LIVE VIVIDH BHARATI RADIO ON THE WEB FROM BANGALORE, INDIA: Hi Listen Online to Vividh Bharathi All India Radio, Live on the Web. I run a radio station from Bangalore, India on the Web. You can listen to a Live Digital Satellite feed of Vividh Bharati on the Internet. It is a live broadcast of Vividh Bharati, it is not a recording. A 24 hour live Digital Satellite feed of Vividh Bharati is available to suite listeners across the various Time Zones, right across the globe! All India Radio,Vividh Bharati also broadcasts on FM on 102.90 Mhz. in Bangalore, . To listen to my radio station you have to register on the Global Tuners web site, IT’S FREE ! Their web site is http://www.globaltuners.com/ or else google it, IT’S FREE ! Register on their web site, it’s one of the best in the world, most of their receivers are PC controlled , so that a user can tune and listen to these receivers from his/her own computer, irrespective of where he/she is in the world, a few receivers are audio only nodes, like my Radio Bangalore. After logging in to Global Tuners web site you have to select Radio Bangalore from their list of radios to listen to my receiver. I have a 4 Foot loop antenna some 30 feet off the ground which works pretty good on Medium wave. For FM I have a FM Dipole antenna, which gives excellent reception for the local FM stations Any doubts you can please get in touch with me at daverohitb@hotmail.com Happy Listening Rohit Dave

where can I listen to the fifa games live? Either radio or streaming, I live in Canada so any Canadian web sites would be better just because some US web sites don't allow us to go on them.

Says I need Windows Media Player Plug IN to listen to online radio? I went to the Key 103 Manchester web site and they have their station streaming live over the net. I click to listen and it says I need "The Windows Media Plugin" to listen to the station and it gives a little link that takes me to a Media 11 site. I am running Windows Media Player 11. Does anyone know what plugin I need?

Help streaming live radio using Real Player? Hello there fellow people. I need help streaming live radio using Real Player, I'll get straight into what info I have so you have the best possible chance of helping me. I'm trying to stream live radio from Coral Coast Radio (http://www.coralcoastradio.net.au/) It suggests that I have Real Player. I have d/l Real Player SP 1.0 (http://www.filehippo.com/download_realplayer/), and I have installed it. The problem is that I've now tried streaming the radio again from the site, but it still will not link it up with the Real Player, and I don't know how to get it to work; when I click on to the icon it opens up another page stating "Internet Explorer cannot display the web page". How can I correct this so I can listen to the live stream??? Thank you in advance.

is there a site on the web where i can listen to the nascar race live? nascar radio station for free of the race tonight

Can I listen to Test Match Special internet radio broadcast of the England v SAfrica series this winter? I love listening to the Test Match special team. I live in east Asia so it is my only dose of cricket! Can i still get the streamed live broadcast from the TMS web site?

Local radio station on my iPod touch? I'm trying to listen to my local radio station, I don't even know if this is possible... Tho I think it is. So on my iPod I go to the radio stations web site and go to listen live section, everythings goes well and the next window pops up with the now playing and like an ad on the side... It's looks okay like I would regularly would on my mac, but there's no sound what do I do to make it work.. Radios website: 967kissfm.com

where do i get christian acapella? i have been searching the web for an online radio i could listen live to christian acapella music with no success. any idea which website i could access?

What TERRESTRIAL stations can i listen to JETS/COLTS game also the Ravens/Chiefs game on? does anyone know the radio station web addresses for any of these towns radio stations that sponsor these games live streaming? I don't want pay sites just real actual radio station sites, gotta hear these games since my cable it out. FOR example, you can listen to the steelers on DVE.COM when there is a game. thanks

How to stream conference call live to radio player or portable stereo? I would like to host conference calls with at least 500 callers. I would like to broadcast this audio live on the internet and also stream it live to stereo players so those who don't call into the conference can still listen to the conference call live from the stereo player and also online at the same time. I found some conference call with web management, but they only have a record then playback conference call and not a live broadcast which I want. Plus, how do I stream the live broadcast to stereo players? Which stereo players should I purchase to make it work so I can give it to listeners to tune into my live broadcast? I don't think I am asking about podcast because podcast is not a live broadcast.

hi my uncle from Costa Rica is the guy from prayfm.com have you herd him? hi, i live in u.s.a but my uncle is from Costa Rica, he has an internet radio(listen to it live 4 free!!) the web site is: prayfm.com it is pretty good. my uncle name on the radio is: Tatto. he speaks spanish and the only one who handles the radio. plz check it out and send him a msg on the website.

How do I create my own Online Radio, using my own Web Server? Basically I would like to create an Online Radio, using the bandwidth of my Web Server, instead of using my own computer & internet connection bandwidth. I'll be streaming both live & will probably have a continuous random play list going on. Is there a way to connect to my web server, using it as a radio server and then letting listeners just pop in my site and have a listen? Are there any programs which would allow me to do so, by being installed within my server, and if so, which are they? Thanks in advance.

I want to know if anyone knows where I could obtain live streams or podcasts of CBC Radio 2's Brave New Waves. I live overseas and the one thing I miss is Brave New Waves (and Nightlines) - just wondering if there is a way for me to listen to the stream live, or if there are podcasts. Haven't had luck finding them online or at the CBC web site.

Can a music radio show upload its program to be listened to online without fear of breaking copyright laws? Some friends have a local radio show in France and would like to upload it as a downloadable (or streamable) file on their web page. The show goes out live in the region via the airwaves and the internet.

How to start Internet Radio? I like to start Internet radio. I find many software that able to live from my PC. But due to my brandwidth only very few able to listen. I need help and details (Programming) how to start internet radio from my web hosting server.

Today's Best Hits live stream on the web? I'm quite a fond of this radio station, "Today's Best Hits" (AKA Q101 WLZQ 101.1 FM). I'm from, and living in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Its part of the American Forces program is to broadcast this radio station in the capital or near it, problem is the FM signal is so incredibly weak, you can only listen to it clearly in the King Saud University campus, but around the city its sorta hard. I've read that they're originally broadcasting from Dallas, TX. but its kind of vague since its not mentioned in their Wikipedia page. I have tried to contact their website http://TodaysBestHits.com plenty of times just to know where I can get a crystal-clear online stream link but without any answers. Please help!

Online Radio Broadcasting? Yeah I wanna be able to mix and allowed others to listen live to what i am mixing. Are there any web sites or programs that allowed one to mix and other to listen aswell.

internet radio - please explain!? ok...i am a Scot currently living in America and like to listen to UK radio stations on my pc, like Radio 2, Radio Scotland etc - I do this through the bbc website. My question is, if I was to buy a stand alone internet radio, would I be able to listen to these channels with it? Or are these radios for other web based channels only?

Can you recommend a good US talk/news radio show?!? Hi guys, Can anybody recommend a good US talk/news radio show that I can tune into via the web (as I live in the UK). I already listen to 77-WABC but am looking to hear something else. Many thanks for your suggestions!

mobile broadband ?? ? who is the cheapest , where do i get it from ?? where do i top up ??? can i do payg ? and how much is 1g or 3g per month ??? is 1 g ok for listening to live radio for 8 hours per day + 6 hours web surfing per day , 7 x days per week ????? also will youtube use your limit fast ?

Does anybody know? How to find a web site where you can listen to football live comentry... I had one years ago but lost the link.. Every time i log onto BBC radio Sheffield 'Listen live' it goes off 1 minute before kick-off, I believe we are 1 up against Ipswich.. Thanks from a Sheff Wed fan now living down south x

Does anyone know of a site where I can listen to the UK football matches? Does anyone know of a site where I can listen to the UK football matches? I live outside of the UK and I am deprived of the UK matches due to restrictions on the radio so I was wndering if anyone knew of a site that works where I can listen to the games without problems... I would love you forever if you could give me a web address...lol

what is the cheapest way to listen in on my local police frequency and how less can i get away with spending? Hello, I live in Jax., Florida and I would like to be able to listen to my local police scanner live just to use this new radio abbreviations and police codes I have recently downloaded...also i could know what is going on in my comminity. What is the cheapest way to listen in to the Jacksonville Sheriffs Office frequency? I cannot find a live stream free on the web. How would i go about finding a home unit that I will understand how to make it work on whatever my local police frequency is? How do I find out how to set up the scanner, say if I find a good deal on a used one on eBay from some other part of the country...would that one pick up my local cops, or would I need to put some different crystal in it or something? This is new to me. Also, I do not need a handheld portable unit, I like the permabnent desktop kind of scanner, if i cant do it wilh my pc.. what is the cheapes way? If there even maybe a FREE method? Thank you, Perry in Jax FL

Premiership Football on Internet Radio? Anyone know of Internet radio stations where I can listen to UK premiership football from abroad? I live in Brazil so cannot get the big games on BBC 5 Live. I've heard some stations in Japan or China broadcast but I can find nothing on the web.

Alex Jones Infowars.com? How many, visit Alex jones web site or listen to him live on free streaming radio

Any internationally-available radio station with similar taste to KOST 103.5 FM, Los Angeles, CA? I'm living in Japan. Earlier this month I traveled to Los Angeles, where I rent a car and came across this beautiful music station - KOST 103.5 FM. I really liked their choices of songs that they aired. Coming back home, I looked on the web to see if they have an internet version of their station. They actually do, but unfortunately they don't allow people living outside of the United States to listen to it. If you are familiar with KOST 103.5 FM and if you know any other station with the similar taste being available internationally on the web (or iTunes radio), I would be very excited to see your suggestions.

Did you live in NY in 1985? I used to listen to a radio program on Z100 with two dj's that took phone calls and pretended to help people with their problems. One of the personalities went by "Dr. George Brothers". They were HILARIOUS! Does anyone else remember these guys? Can a person get a copy of any of their shows on cd or any other way? I have searched the web and can find NOTHING about them. I was hoping someone here would remember them! I believe the show was on Sunday Nights.

Question about XM radio programming...? Quick question...IS XM radio programming as a general rule live or recorded?? For example, lets say I just did a quick check on their web site and I saw that Jazz with Marsalis is playing at 130 pm... and lets say that this is the time each day....I really want to listen to this, but I am working at that time....is there a way of listening to the show later...is it rebrodcast at different times etc....I just don't want to buy this and then find out I can't ever listen to anything good becuase its always on at the wrong time!!!

how to make it big in a band? I'm in a band, Billy the Kid (www.billythekidtheband.com), and we've been on the radio live 3 times, on tv 7 times, in the newspaper 3 times, and the talk of our high school. we are all freshmen now, and were wondering how to make it big and make money. please check out the web site and listen to the music and please give me your opinion.

britney and carissaann talk radio show #1 Blogger Queen Leslie Siegel? britney and carissaann talk radio show #1 Blogger Queen Leslie Siegel Internet Blogger Leslie Siegel Home > Rockland USA LIVE! > Internet Blogger Leslie Siegel #1 Call-in Number: (646) 478-5589 Host Name Rockland USA LIVE! Show Name Internet blogger Leslie Siegel #1 Date / Time 10/9/2007 6:00:00 AM Show Length 1 Hour Show Description We talked to Leslie Siegel, the self-proclaimed 'Queen of the Internet' who states she was the first woman on the internet. She also claims she is the #1 ghost/paranormal writer, she will beat Perez Hilton's gossip blog, and can get anyone to the top of search engines. Listen to this wild interview and make your own decision - post your comments. Keywords britney carissaann celebrity entertainment gossip hollywood Rockland USA LIVE! Internet Blogger Leslie Siegel #1! ter an email address Please notify me 5 Minutes 10 Minutes 15 Minutes 20 Minutes 30 Minutes 45 Minutes 1 Hour 1 1/2 Hours 2 SheKnowsWhy The "5" is for Leslie Siegel, poor child! How could you! GoodGirl61, Talk about a gang up on Leslie Siegel with you! She deserves to answer to that second broadcast you did of all her voicemails to you. She does not sound violent or mean, just shocked and frantic, which is duly noted! Please give her a second chance to tell more abouty her technique you have labeled and not done the research on this blogger queen as you should have! Rockland USA LIVE! Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:40:32 AM We never got to the 5 Myths About Women, Carissa-Ann from YouTube, or our great web site find. We ended up spending the entire show talking to Leslie Siegel about her claims that she the first woman on the internet! She also had numerous other claims but ended up stating they are in the makes. Does she have issues? You decide!

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is there a web directory..of sorts? i have found a lot of cool stuff on the web and most of it not intentionally...you know,you look up one thing and your in an area far from what was intended. i was looking for a baseball glove and ended up in turkey looking at cheap seaside condo [cheap].i know i,m missing a lot of cool stuff...how can i find out what i'm missing...is there like a directory of sorts that gives a general description of sites. you know i was looking for a Mao cap and ended up listening to the Israeli army radio with great music..i dont want to have to find things interesting this way...i'm way too curious to be missing out on great sites.and if you know a site you cant live without...hit me with the info!

weird true story involving a radio station that didn't exist? My social studies teacher always has these new stories that he tells us ever week and we have to figure out if it is "fact or fiction". He told us this one story about a boyfriend and girlfriend that broke up and moved to the same city but they didn't know it because they lived on different sides of it. One night, both were listening to a strange radio station that the girl claims had said, "Joe (or whatever his name was) wants you, Beth, to meet him at the fountain in the park." The man claims that he heard, "Beth wants you, Joe to meet her at the fountain in the park." They both went to the fountain and reunited, but both said that they didn't put the message on. And when they tried to contact the radio station, they found out that it didn't exist. My teacher also said that the story was on History's Mystery's and shows like those.. Is it actually a real story or just something my teacher thought was real? If it is, then do you know of any web pages with the story on it?

audio on the net? there is u tube which is full of videos thats fine but why not a u tube for audio files ? we have tons of radio programmes and other audio on tape on a million subjects it would be great to have a massive audio resource that was searchable I like listening to audio while surfing but I find most live radio tedious wonder if theres anything out there on the web ? I ve noticed that an hour of audio will fit into someting like 9 megs so compared with video it is miniscule and easy to download.

im looking for a prepaid cell phone? D: ? right now i have net10, but im going to get a new phone soon ): i wanted to get the net10 optimus net: http://www.net10.com/phone_details.jsp?model=UCMTST_009402 it seemed perfect!, but it wont work in the area i live u_u so i have to find a new one. so heres what im looking for: touch screen (the bigger the better, i like big phones) mp3 player 3.0+ camera radio web surfing and lets me watch videos on youtube, etc. my price range is $100-$150 and it would be nice if the monthly plan would be $25 or lower :/ )': i cant find my perfect phone though!! am i being unreasonable? i was going to get this phone: http://www.virginmobileusa.com/cell-phones/lg-rumor-touch-phone.jsp but the virgin moble plan prices keep going up! last year it was $25 a month and now its $35!! and im afraid that there just going to keep getting higher and higher :( **** keep in mind that im a 15 year old girl!! so of course i text a ton, and like to play games and listen to music on my cell!!! but i dont want to make my parents pay a ton of money each month ):

Describe major characteristics that distinguish writing news items for print, broadcasting, and the Internet. I answered this question like this ( yes I do my own homework): The Web (internet) offers more potential for displaying vast amounts of information in comparison with print and broadcasting because of capacity, flexibility, and immediacy. Capacity of the Web is greater than television, radio, and newspapers because more information can be disclosed. Flexibility of the Web is greater because it can facilitate words, pictures, audio, video, and graphics. Print and broadcasting are limited because of time and methods of news content delivery. Immediacy of the web is closely matched with broadcasting because information can be immediately conveyed; however variety, expansion, depth, content and permanence are criteria for competition between broadcasting and the Web. Obviously newspapers cannot meet the immediate requirements to convey news content like broadcasting and the Web. Variety allows information at your finger tips via the Web; whereas with broadcasting you may have to listen to unimportant information in order to get to the information you seek to obtain. Expansion: Broadcast only conveys one detail at a time; whereas with the Web any information can be obtained by using the right search engine. The Web allows you to get the information you want rather than what the broadcast believes to be important. Depth: Closely compared to capacity but has more to do with the quality of information you receive. The Web offers better quality information. The broadcast professionals have no cushion between them and the breaking news story; whereas the Web authors have time to review the information and edit their work before it is distributed, thus creating better quality work. Context: The Web has the power to sum up, keep posted, and insert various points of the content; whereas broadcast is generally live. Print media and broadcasting offer no ways to interact with the content; whereas the Web does. Print journalism offers the same benefits that Web journalism offers but only more benefits are affiliated with the Web. All of the above is criteria for writing items for print, broadcasting, and internet. I think it is safe to say that the Web is the best option for writing and is the future of journalism. Anyone out there taken CMC 220 at Axia? Is this to much information for a DQ? Does anyone think I should reduce my response or change it in any way? Just looking for feedback.

Why are lyrics so hard to find? So I live in WA (State) and I listen to a college radio and there's this song that I want to listen to but I cannot find it anywhere on the web... And its annoying me because I really like this song.... I don't know what to do, if I knew the name of the song I wouldn't be in this situation... The radio hardly plays it but when they do, I want to call but when I go to dial, my mind goes... BLANK... I need help, I am sooo sad, I want to hear this song... You know how you crave food? I crave to hear this song... The lyrics are " cause i need you tonight, cause im feeling so high, everything is changing in my mind/my life...." the "everything is..." isnt in order....

Jerry Lewis Hollywood USA? Angel radio.co.uk. 24/7 run volunteers no pop music 30s to 1959 all good stuff. We get a weekly dose of you and Dean i remember them live its good to hear good comedy again its a thing thats faded and comedy to-day is just not funny anymore and your catchphrase "are you for real" is still sounds fresh now since all those years back Let me and the station know if you catch site of this or a friend lets you know and you wish to reply. Good luck and keep well. REGARDS FROM UK (hope you click onto web and listen its a great station)

Please help me with the correct trivia for US99 & other Radio Stations for December 22, 2008? Good Morning all! Before They Were Famous: A) teacher Champions: B) 1997 Country Music Trivia: C) Knoxville Swarovski: (no question yet this a.m.) This Day in U.S. History: B) Nuts! Video of the Day Trivia: Where can you see the word “detox”? AWA World’s Worst Hotel Guest: Who is the 4th worst guest? Britney Spears You Can Quote Me: B) to make me happy Newsletter: Nutcracker Deans: Lowfat (who are they kidding at this time of year!) Nascar: E Happy Birthday & Anniversary Month to: Pincio (13th), tjcmstables (15th) Fred G (23rd),Eric –sheb12 son (29th) Sher (31st), Jw and husband (31st 25 years!) nancykep (31st) Who We Are and the stations we listen too! 92.5 JOE FM EDMONTON, AB 92.5 WWYZ HARTFORD, CT. 92.5 LONESTAR DALLAS, TEXAS 92.5 XTU PHILADELPHIA 92.5 WBEE ROCHESTER, NY 92.5 THE WOLF, DENVER 92.9 DAVEFM ATLANTA, GA 93.7 THE BULL TRIVIA 93.9 MOVING CALIFORNIA 94.9 THE SOUND WSWD FM CINCINNATI OHIO 95.3 NEW COUNTRY, HAMILTON ONTARIO 95.5 WFMS INDIANAPOLIS 95.7 MYCLUB MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN 96.5 WCMF ROCHESTER, NEW YORK 96.7 THE TWISER ARLINGTON, TEXAS 96.9 THE EAGLE SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 97.3 ALICE SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA 98 WPXY ROCHESTER, NEW YORK 98.7 KUPL PORTLAND, OR 99.5 WUSN CHICAGO, IL. 99.5 THE RIVER ALBANY, NEW YORK 99.5 WGAR CLEVELAND, OHIO 99.5 THE WOLF TEXAS COUNTRY 99.5 WZPL Z99 INDIANAPOLIS, IN 100.1 KZST SANTA ROSE, CA 100.3 KILT FM HOUSTON, TX 100.7 WMMS CLEVELAND, OHIO Y101 OTTAWA, ONTARIO 101.9 Q102 CINCINNATI’S OHIO 102.1 EDGE DALLAS 102.5 KSFM SACRAMENTO, CA 102.9 MIX 103.9 CISN EDMONTON, AB 105.1 GO COUNTRY LOS ANGELES, CA C105 CALGARY, ALBERTA 105.7 KYKX LONGVIEW, TEXAS 105.9 WHCN THE RIVER HARTFORD, CT 106.1 WMIL MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN 106.1 KISS FM DALLAS, TX 106.1 KISS SEATTLE, WASHINGTON Q107 CLASSIC CALGARY, AB Z107.7 ST. LOUIS, MO 107.9 WNTR THETRACK INDIANAPOLIS, IN CrazyH I agree with you it's Freeeeeeezing outside and my neighbor called asking how her cats are, (watch them for her) from Florida and it's 80's down there! Asked her to bring some of it back with her! Even 20's would feel good right now, without any wind! NancyK is back! from our friend buscandducks: Thank You everyone! Your thoughts and prayers are greatly appreciated. Her first name is Marian. She is 88 so she has lived a long life but it's still hard to see her go. Thank you again. to Cj S hope you can make it home soon! konadan what web site do you use? Hope all that were not feeling good are getting better! Stay safe and warm! and if you have to shovel be careful. To the best group of people I hope all of your Holidays are as special as you are! If you celebrate the festive of lights enjoy! if not I hope you have a Merry Christmas! Our little miracle is still having trouble with his ventilator keep praying for him!

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Christian radio stations? How can i get a list of live short wave radio station channels (with meter bands)(not the radios on web),where i can receive and listen christian music and gospel in India.

could someone please tell me how 2find talk radioshows on the web/music2. I would like live stations ? it would be cool if I could have something like areal radio 2 dail up differant stations,so I can listen 2what ever I want news/music,and will I b able 2 reiceve from differant states?

Does anyone know of a site where I can listen to the UK football matches? Does anyone know of a site where I can listen to the UK football matches? I live outside of the UK and I am deprived of the UK matches due to restrictions on the radio so I was wndering if anyone knew of a site that works where I can listen to the games without problems... I would love you forever if you could give me a web address...lol

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Which phone should i get the Eternity or the Vu? both look like a real good cell phones but idk from which to decide here are the eternity's features Features Camera Camera Resolution 3 megapixels Zoom 3x Live video capture and playback 1 Hour Music Music player Supported music formats MP3, AAC, Real , WAV, WMA AT&T Mobile Music Messaging Text Messaging Insert pictures, video clips and sound clips easily Instant Messaging (IM) AOL, Windows Live, Yahoo Messenger Video Share - share live streaming video with friends & family Email Mobile Email AOL, Yahoo, Windows Live Video & Web Web browser MEdia(TM) Net for wireless internet access CV - news, sports, weather, entertainment and more Mobile TV MEdia(TM) Mall Ringtones Answer Tones(TM) - have your friends hear your favorite song or funny phrase when they call you Cool Tools Games, puzzle, sports, action, card, racing and more Graphics Choose from your favorite music artists, celebrities, sports heroes, and more Productivity Calendar, Alarm clock, Call Waiting, Caller ID, Personal Organizer Address book Conference calling Call Forwarding Extras 3G high-speed data and voice World phone Quad-band Bluetooth® wireless connectivity USB connectivity - transfer data through a USB cable Hands-free speakerphone Specifications Battery Capacity 1300 mAh Talk time Up to 5 hours Standby time Up to 10 days Dimensions Weight 3.88 ounces Size (inches) 4.3 x 2.2 x 0.5 inches Memory Expandable memory storage 8 GB Memory format microSD(TM) Wireless Technology GSM/GPRS 850/900/1800/900 MHz 3G 850/1900 MHz EDGE high speed data network Bluetooth technology Stereo Display Display size 3.2 inches Resolution (pixels) 240 x 400 pixels Colors 262K Keyboard Touchscreen Predictive text for fast typing T9 here's the Vu's features Features Camera Camera Resolution 2 megapixels Zoom 2X Live video capture and playback Music Music player Supported music formats MP3, WMA, AAC, AAC+, EAAC+ AT&T Mobile Music Subscription music services Streaming Radio Customizable equalizer MusicID - Identify songs you're listening to Create music playlists Visualizer Messaging Text Messaging Insert pictures, video clips and sound clips easily Instant Messaging (IM) AIM®, Yahoo!®, and Windows Live® Video Share - share live streaming video with friends & family Email Mobile Email AOL, Yahoo, Windows Live, AT&T Yahoo, BellSouth Video & Web Web browser full HTML MEdia(TM) Net for wireless internet access CV - news, sports, weather, entertainment and more Mobile TV MEdia(TM) Mall Ringtones Answer Tones(TM) - have your friends hear your favorite song or funny phrase when they call you Cool Tools Mobile Banking, The Weather Channel, eBay Games, puzzle, sports, action, card, racing and more Graphics Choose from your favorite music artists, celebrities, sports heroes, and more Themes Productivity Calendar, Alarm clock, Call Waiting, Caller ID, Personal Organizer Address Book 500 entries Call Forwarding Multitasking Use voice and data simultaneously Extras 3G high-speed data and voice World phone Quad-band Bluetooth® wireless connectivity USB connectivity Hands-free speakerphone Voice dialing and voice commands Specifications Battery Capacity 1000 mAH Talk time Up to 3 hours Standby time Up to 10.5 days Dimensions Weight 3.16 Ounces Size (inches) 4.25 x 2.16 x 0.51 inches Memory Internal memory storage 120 MB Memory format microSD(TM) Wireless Technology GSM/GPRS 850/900/1800/900 MHz 3G UMTS/HSDPA 850/1900 MHz EDGE high speed data network Bluetooth technology 1.2 FOTA capable - upgrade Firmware Over the Air Display Display size 3 inches Resolution (pixels) 240 x 400 pixels Colors 262K Keyboard Touchscreen Predictive text for fast typing

How do I set up a Wireless internet connection in my home? Since X-mas is coming up, along with the after X-mas sales I've been thinking how nice it would be to be able to listen to internet radio on my laptop while I soak in the tub; or to be able to look up recipies at a moments notice while I was in the kitchen, or even surf the web while I watched TV or the sunset on the patio...all without having to move even a single cord. I don't live in a studio apartment tho, so whatever system I get will have to work through walls I guess. So: 1. What do I need to buy? 2. How much is it going to cost? 3. How secure is it? How reliable? 4. How time consuming is it going to be to set up? To maintain? My laptop is running windows XP, even tho it's an older laptop...thank you very much for any answers. I'd really love some feed back from people who have bought routers(Correct term?) and just a general idea of what's the best brand, the best buy, what's involved ect.

I want a new cell phone, which one is better? *Sony Ericsson W580i Walkman 2.0 MP camera with 4x zoom Video recording and playback Walkman® media player with Shake Control Stereo Bluetooth® 2.0 technology with A2DP AT&T music folder listen to MP3s or streaming radio FM Radio with customizable station presets Multimedia messaging - Send text, photos, and sounds Memory Stick Micro(TM) expandable memory slot 256MB memory card included with the white version Mobile email - AOL®, Yahoo!® and MSN® Download ringtones, games, & graphics Colored light effects for caller ID Pedometer and fitness applications Preloaded games like PacMan & Ms. Pacman Identify songs playing with Track ID(TM) Versatile slim slider design Quad-band world phone MEdiaNet web browser Speakerphone *Samsung A737 1.3 MP camera with 2.6 x zoom Video and audio streaming Stereo Bluetooth® capable with A2DP Integrated MP3 music player Cellular Video capable - watch streaming clips 3G high speed data access capabillities Download MP3 ringtones, games and graphics AOL®, Windows Live® and Yahoo® Instant Messenger Video Share capable - Share video while calling Wireless internet and mobile email Backlit keypad and LCD screen Personal Organizer and Alarm Conference calling Speakerphone Games

Does this make sense? My wife typed this letter a while ago. We started arguing about her going to her friend Jeff's house til 4am. She said I needed to leave if I didn't trust her. Anyway... Here is the letter she typed. What do you make of it? Life Is Good (inspired by nature, touched by God) It's a good life; it is good to be alive. Sometimes I get down; sometimes I am up. There is this crazy web of things going on in my mind. I think about the people around me; and the people that are not around me. Every person with their own life to live; it is a good life for them too. Things can never be as bad as we think they can be. I wonder if anybody ever worries about me. I think I have started down a self destructive path… and I feel myself stuck in it. Stuck in the mud, this is how I am feeling right now. I realize that I have some kind of messed up sense of fault. What I need to pound into my own head, is the only thing in this world that I am in control of is myself. What I really want to do, more than anything right now, is quit everything. I almost desire death. The only thing that keeps me from ending my own life is that it would be really mean to the people that love me. I can not abuse them that bad. I can't bring myself to worry about the afterlife; and that was my biggest worry before. So how do I escape these feelings? Get help, talk to somebody, find someone impartial. Listen, in my opinion, a person that charges $150. an hour & their rules are that their patients must have health insurance is not an impartial party. Shew, I hate money. Nothing in this life sucks as bad as money. Do you know what else sucks? Pity. Self pity is disgusting to me. When other people feel sorry for me, it invokes my own self pity. I hate to cry. I hate to be ugly. I hate it when my eyes are all messed up from crying. It makes me angry when other people cry in self pity. Again, the only thing in this whole world that each individual one of us is in control of is what we choose to do while we are alive. Life is stress, life is anxiety, life is work… but even so, life is good. Maybe I have anger issues. Maybe I need to work on my own self worth. Am I important to anybody? Does anybody love me? Will somebody point me in the direction… where can I find Love Street? I think I have music in my soul. There are so many songs that I relate to so much, in so many ways. You hear people talk about what inspire them. Most people don't talk the way I do; so I will give an example for clarity. I know a chick that is a real church-going person. She whole-heartedly believes in the bible; she believes in God. I have heard her talking about the bible a couple of times; not quoting; but just talking about the bible in general. She said that the thing about the bible is you can read it over and over and over; and each time it has a different meaning… each time she can relate to the bible's teachings differently. This is the way I feel about music. I can get lost, I can be stone sober and trip out, on some good music. There is not much music that I hate. Really. You'll hear me say that I hate a lot of things; but not music. There are some musicians that I hate with a passion; well, I don't hate them as a person, I hate the crappy lyrics mixed with their crappy style… but even with that; when their crappy music comes on the radio; and I can't pick up another station; I listen to them. Sometimes things like that change my mind about the music they made in the first place. Sometimes I listen to some stuff that other people recommend to me, because they like it, and most recommended music I like. Is that because I like my friends and I value their opinion? Maybe. Some music I hate on principal. Pre-judgment is ugly; why would I hate a person's music because of their reputation? I don't know these people… I don't even care about these people's personal lives… but I'll tell you what I do like about them… they share their music with the whole world. So, back to the music of my soul. Right now, my soul is playing mournful tunes. It is a sad violin, it is a slow and steady bongo. It is a tribal woman, dancing around a fire, dancing a slow and wild dance. Yes, I really am in a rut. How do I get out of the rut? I don't know, but I don't want outside help. Why is it not socially acceptable to help yourself mentally, when its not socially acceptable to NOT help yourself physically? Why… when a person is down & out, poor, homeless and drunk, they are looked down upon because they are the dregs of the world; they are talked down to because they are bums. Why is it so terrible that they need alcohol? It may be self-destructive behavior; a bum may be smelly or ugly; but why must he be hated for who he is? Accepting a person does not change him. Accepting the way a person is; changes nothing in this world but the way you look at the world. So… if in fact I was really trying to help my I know Jeff is more than a friend, he called me to tell me he had been "hittin it" in his terminology.

Do you think Imus' firing was justified? I don't.? Warning - Please be advised the following Commentary contains citations of sexually explicit profanity. -ed When Don Imus referred to a Black women's basketball team as "nappy headed hos" he was using a description ("hos") that Black rappers have popularized on CBS sister stations. CBS is owned by Viacom, http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/viacom.asp%20 which also owns MTV and VHS. These stations are responsible for making this expression part of the national vocabulary. Viacom also owns "Famous Music," which publishes and markets the work of hip-hop and rap artists who portray Black women as "bitches" and "hoes." A cursory search yielded this couplet from Rapper "Cadillac Tah": Bitches come, bitches go But little do they know we don't love them ho's ("Come and Go") So, Imus is double victimized by CBS's owners. First they popularize a derogatory attitude and expression, and then they fire him for using it. The expression is so common that Imus' sidekick actually introduced it into the conversation: "Imus: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and - McGuirk: Some hard-core hos. Imus: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some - woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like - kinda like - I don't know." Imus transgressed because Blacks can call their women "hos," but Whites have to treat them with kid gloves, as an endangered species.(They are a privileged subset of another endangered minority, women.) These Anti-White-Male prejudices were apparent when the CBS President, Leslie Moonves, one of the Original Endangered Minority (upon which all others are modeled,) announced he was firing Imus. "There has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on our young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society," CBS President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves said... "That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision." "Young women of color trying to make their way in this society." Does he mean women like the Black stripper who falsely accused the Duke Lacrosse players of rape? Does he mean language of the kind Viacom is broadcasting, publishing and selling!? You need a shoe shine job The way you polish a knob Backstage panties down eat dick Good-bye Biotch!! (Ya Rule "Extacy") "Young women of color trying to make their way in this society?" That's a laugh! Every corporation, university and government department has orders to rush them to the head of the line! This is confirmed by the next paragraph: "Imus had a long history of inflammatory remarks. But something struck a raw nerve when he targeted the Rutgers team - which includes a class valedictorian, a future lawyer and a musical prodigy - after they lost in the NCAA championship game." Imus' Remarks spawned a feeding frenzy. All the usual sharks--Al Sharpton, Oprah Winfrey, Hilary Clinton, Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama-cashed in. Jackson called the firing "a victory for public decency. No one should use the public airwaves to transmit racial or sexual degradation." Like this from Viacom's "Famous Music" site? Look, Samantha, Loraine, Monica, Veronica Veronica, she treated my dick like a harmonica cock sucker How you think I learned how to twist it and turn Ya back until it's broke, make you feel it in your throat It was Pamela, Linda, Keisha, Nicole Had me fuckin while I was drivin on cruise control Can't wait to get it home and teach it all to you Look I'm just tryna be the best, I'm doin it all for you You know that thing with the peanut butter My Brooklyn bitch said fuck untyin the ropes, it's faster with a box cutter I know you love the way I'm diggin you out But always wanna fuckin argue so let's figure this out I'm just tryna make you happy bitch Who's there for you anytime you get in the mood for suckin a dick (Xzibit, "Fuckin You Right, Restless") Said Sharpton: "[Imus]says he wants to be forgiven. I hope he continues in that process. But we cannot afford a precedent established that the airways can commercialize and mainstream sexism and racism." Who is he kidding? Does he listen to what Viacom is broadcasting? Cops gettin mad cause I paid 'em off, made 'em cough blood and shit That's what the hell you motherfuckers get, we runs this bitch? So hey, you ain't gotta be scared to fuck If you want head, then prepare to suck (do it) Even if the nigga don't care to nut For every stroke, it's a hundred bucks Respect the game, you just a slut So open your legs up and get my duck ("Pimp Like Me" D-12 Devil's Night) The principled men of CBS stand to lose revenues of $15 million a year from Imus' Show. But they make much more than that from promoting and selling this poison. It gets better! Imus has raised more than $40 million dollars to fight SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) and was in the middle of a fund raising marathon Thursday when the announcement was made! Corporate sponsors affirmed their political bona fides by canceling advertising. If you like Imus, boycott the following: American Express Co., Sprint Nextel Corp., Staples Inc., Procter & Gamble Co. and General Motors Corp. But buy Bigelow Tea. " Imus thanked one sponsor, Bigelow Tea, for sticking by him." Another Uncle Tom, Bryan Monroe, president of the National Association of Black Journalists and director of Ebony and Jet magazines, met with Moonves on Wednesday.He urged them ... to take a stand against the coarsening of culture. "Something happened in the last week around America," Monroe said. "It's not just what the radio host did. America said enough is enough. America said we don't want this kind of conversation, we don't want this kind of vitriol, especially with teenagers." Does this guy ever watch MTV? Does he live in the USA? *CONCLUSION* Don Imus is another victim of the Culture War, a ritual sacrifice to the God of political correctness. He is an object lesson for average Americans on when "prejudice and hate" is allowed and when it is not. (Come in Mel Gibson and Michael Richards.) It is allowed against White Christian heterosexuals. See "Imus Treatment Ignored for Catholic Bashers" It is not allowed against Blacks, Jews and homosexuals. I didn't listen to Imus but he also criticized powerful Jews. I don't think /anyone/ should get the Imus treatment. It smacks of the Orwellian thought control, Soviet show trials and Maoist rituals of public chastisement and contrition. It smacks of the New World Order. What is wrong with hatred and prejudice anyway? Do we fault the Holocaust survivor who hates Nazis? Do we blame the battered wife who hates the man who disfigured her? Do we begrudge the Black slave who hates the man who wields the whip? Wouldn't they be less than human not to hate them? I do not believe people hate for no reason. There is a justified hatred that is natural, necessary and human, and we are being conditioned to be impassive. Similarly isn't "prejudice" another term for learning from experience? Often it's really "postjudice." I think most people will change their views when they see that the facts have changed. Then why should we blame people who resent being relegated to second-class citizens in their own country? Who resent that a foreign central banking cartel has taken control of politics and the media? Who resent it flooding the country with aliens in order to change its character? Who resent that marriages and families have been destroyed by Feminism, introduced by those Communist and Media Jews who serve this cartel? Who resent that their young are dying and their nation is being bled dry by the banker's foreign wars? Who resent they are losing their freedom under the guise of a phony war on terror? Who resent that the fearless media doesn't expose the scoundrels who are really responsible for 9-11 and the death of 3000 Americans? The real endangered minority is Don Imus' audience: the average white Christian American. The foreign elites are using minorities to dis-empower the majority. Don Imus may have expressed the majority's resentment. He had to go. Let's make the bastards pay. ---- Henry Makow Ph.D. is the inventor of the game Scruples and author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles exposing fe-manism and the New World Order can be found at his web site www.savethemales.ca He enjoys receiving comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only. hmakow@gmail.com

Anyone intrested in writing a two page summary of this? FIBER KEEPS ITS PROMISE BY GEORGE GILDER "Today, I await the death of television, telephony, VCRs, and analog cameras with utter confidence as Moore's law unfolds." Rupert Murdoch, Ted Turner, John Malone, are you listening?" Get ready. Bandwidth will triple each year for the next 25, creating trillions in new wealth. Editor's note: Four years ago, Forbes ASAP published its first issue with a stunning prophecy by contributing editor George Gilder. Fiber optics, said George, had the potential to carry 25 trillion bits per second down a single strand. This represented a ten-thousandfold leap in carrying capacity over the 2.5 billion bits "barrier" long assumed by most experts in the field. What did George see that others had missed? One, a little-recognized (at the time) breakthrough called an erbium-doped amplifier, which keeps optical signals pure and strong over long distances. The other was a deep technical shift, with roots in the 1940s-era work of information theory pioneer Claude Shannon. If you believed Shannon, his logic dictated a new messaging scheme called wave division multiplexing. Though scorned by the experts four years ago, WDM now is emerging as the winner George had prophesied. The real winners will be all of us, as the coming world of cheap, unlimited bandwidth unfolds and at last fulfills the true potential of the information age. Here is George with an update. IMAGINE THAT IN 1975 YOU KNEW that Moore's law--the Intel chairman's projection of the doubling of the number of transistors on a microchip every 18 months--would hold for the rest of your lifetime. What if you knew that these transistors would run cooler, faster, better, and cheaper as they got smaller and were crammed more closely together? Suppose you knew the law of the microcosm: that the cost-effectiveness of any number of "n" transistors on a single silicon sliver would rise by the square of the increase in "n." As an investor knowing this Moore's law trajectory, you would have been able to predict and exploit a long series of developments: the emergence of the PC; its dominance over all other computer form factors; the success of companies making chips, disk drives, peripherals, and software for this machine. With a slight effort of intellect, you could have extended the insight and prophesied the digitization of watches, records (CDs), cellular phones, cameras, TVs, broadcast satellites, and other devices that can use miniaturized computer power. If you did not know precisely when each of these benisons would flourish, you would have known that each one was essentially inevitable. To calculate approximate dates, you had only to guess the product's optimal price of popularization and then match its need for mips (millions of instructions per second) of computer power with the cost of those mips as defined by Moore's law. Merely by using this technique of Moore's law matching--and holding to it with unshakable conviction for nearly 20 years--I became known as a "futurist." Today I await the death of television, telephony, VCRs, and analog cameras with utter confidence as Moore's law unfolds. You can tell me about the 98% penetration of TVs in American homes, the continuing popularity of couch-potato entertainments, the effectiveness of broadcast advertising, and the profound and unbridgeable chasm between the office appliance and the living-room tube. But I will pay no attention. Just you wait--Jack Welch, Ted Turner, Rupert Murdoch, John Malone, and David Jennings--the TV will die and you may be too late for the Net. It is now 1997, and a stream of dramatic events certifies that another law, as powerful and fateful and inexorable as Moore's, is gaining a similar sway over the future of technology. It is what I have termed the law of the telecosm. Its physical base lies in the same quantum realm of eigenstates and band gaps that governs the performance of transistors and also makes photons leap and lase. But the telecosm reaches beyond components to systems, combining the science of the electromagnetic spectrum with Claude Shannon's information theory. In essence, as frequencies rise and wavelengths drop, digital performance improves exponentially. Bandwidth rises, power usage sinks, antenna size shrinks, interference collapses, error rates plummet. The law of the telecosm ordains that the total bandwidth of communications systems will triple every year for the next 25 years. As communicators move up-spectrum, they can use bandwidth as a substitute for power, memory, and switching. This results in far cheaper and more efficient systems. In 1996, the new fiber paradigm emerged in full force. Parallel communications in all-optical networks became the dominant source of new bandwidth in telecom. Like Moore's law, the law of the telecosm will reshape the entire world of information technology. It defines the direction of technological advance, the vectors of growth, the sweet spots for finance. AMERICA'S DARK SECRET FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, American companies have been laying optical fiber strands at a pace of some 4,000 miles a day, for a total of more than 25 million strand miles. Five years ago, the top 10% of U.S. homes and businesses were, on average, a thousand households away from a fiber node; now they are a hundred households away. However, the imperial advance of this technology conceals a dark secret, which has led to a pervasive underestimation of the long-term impact of photonics. Sixty percent of the fiber remains "dark" (unused for communications) and even the leading-edge "lit" fiber is being used at less than one ten-thousandth of its intrinsic capacity. This problem has prompted leaders in the industry, from Bill Gates and Andy Grove to Bob Metcalfe and Mitch Kapor, to underrate drastically the impact of fiber optics. Restricting the speed and cost-effectiveness of fiber has been an electronic bottleneck and a regulatory noose. In order for the signal to be amplified, regenerated, or switched, the light pulses had to be transformed into electronic pulses by optoelectronic converters. For all the talk of the speed of light, fiber-optic systems therefore could pass bits no faster than the switching speed of transistors, which tops out at a cycle time of between 2.5 and 10 gigahertz. Meanwhile, telecom companies could not deploy new low-cost fiber products any faster than the switching speed of politicians and regulators, which tops out roughly at a cycle time of between 2.5 years and a rate of evolution measurable only by means of carbon 14. Nonetheless, the intrinsic capacity of every fiber line is not 2.5 gigahertz. Nor is it even 25 gigahertz, which is roughly the capacity of all the frequencies commonly used in the air, from AM radio to kA band satellite. The intrinsic capacity of every fiber thread, as thin as a human hair, is at the least one thousand times the capacity of what we call the "air." One thread could carry all the calls in America on the peak moment of Mother's Day. One fiber thread could carry 25 times more bits than last year's average traffic load of all the world's communications networks put together: an estimated terabit (trillion bits) a second. Over the last five years, technological breakthroughs and legislative loopholes have begun to open up this immense capacity to possible use. Following concepts pioneered and patented by David Payne at the University of Southampton in England, a Bell Laboratories group led by Emmanuel Desurvire and Randy Giles developed a workable all-optical device. They showed that a short stretch of fiber doped with erbium, a rare earth mineral, and excited by a cheap laser diode can function as a powerful amplifier over fully 4,500 gigahertz of the 25,000 gigahertz span. Introduced by Pirelli of Italy and popularized by Ciena Corporation of Savage, Maryland, and by Lucent and Alcatel, today such photonic amplifiers are a practical reality. Put in packages between two and three cubic inches in size, the erbium-doped fiber amplifiers (EDFAs) fit anywhere in an optical network for enhancing signals without electronics. This invention overcame the most fundamental disadvantage of optical networks compared to electronic networks. You can tap into an electronic network as often as desired without eroding the voltage signal. Although resistance and capacitance will leach away the current, there are no splitting losses in a voltage divider. Photonic signals, by contrast, suffer splitting losses every time they are tapped; they lose photons until eventually there are none left. The cheap and compact all-optical amplifier solves this problem. It is an invention comparable in importance to the integrated circuit. Just as the integrated circuit made it possible to put an entire computer system on a single sliver of silicon, the all-optical amplifier makes it possible to put an entire system on a seamless seine of silica--glass. Unleashing the law of the telecosm, it makes possible a new global economy of bandwidth abundance. Five years ago when I first celebrated the radical implications of erbium-doped amplifiers, skepticism reigned. I was summoned to Bellcore, where the first optical networks had been built and then abandoned, to learn the acute limits of the technology from Charles Brackett and his team. I had offered the vision of a broadband fibersphere--a worldwide web of glass and light--where computer users could tune into favored frequencies as readily as radios tune into frequencies in the atmosphere today. But Brackett and other Bellcore experts told me that my basic assumption was false. It was no simpler, they said, to tune into one of scores of frequencies on a fiber than to select time slots in a time-division-multiplexed (TDM) bitstream. Indeed, electronic switching technology was moving faster than optical technology. In the face of the momentum and installed base of electronic switching and multiplexing, the fibersphere with hundreds of tunable frequencies would remain a fantasy, like Ted Nelson's Xanadu. In 1997 the fantasy is coming true around the world. Xanadu has become the World Wide Web. The erbium-doped fiber amplifier is an explosively growing $250 million business. Electronic TDM seems to have topped out at 2.5 gigabits a second. TDM gear has suffered a series of delays and nagging defects and so far has failed in the market. Electronic TDM failed not only because it pushed the envelope of electronics but also because it violated the new paradigm. In single-mode fiber, the two key impediments are nonlinearities in the glass and chromatic dispersion (the blurring of bit pulses because even in a single band different frequencies move at different speeds). Chromatic dispersion increases by the square of the bit rate, and the impact of nonlinearities rises with the power of the signal. High-powered, high-bit-rate TDM flunked both telecosm tests. By contrast, wavelength-division multiplexing (WDM) follows the laws of the telecosm; it succeeds by wasting bandwidth and stinting on power. WDM takes some 33% more bandwidth per bit than TDM, but it reduces power to combat nonlinearity and divides the bitstream into multiple frequencies in order to combat dispersion. Thus it can extend the distance or increase capacity by a factor of four or more today and can lay the foundations for the fibersphere tomorrow. In 1996 the new fiber paradigm emerged in full force. Parallel communications in all-optical networks, long depicted as a broadband pipe dream, crushed all competitors and became the dominant source of new bandwidth in the world telecom network. The year began with a trifold explosion at the Conference on Optical Fiber Communication in San Jose when three companies--Lucent Technologies' Bell Labs, NTT Labs, and Fujitsu--all announced terabit-per-second WDM transmissions down a single fiber. Sprint confirmed the significance of the laboratory breakthroughs by announcing deployment of Ciena's MultiWave 1600 WDM system, so called because it can increase the capacity of a single fiber thread by 1,600%. The revolution continues in 1997. At the beginning of January, NEC declared that by increasing the number of bits per hertz from one to three, it had raised the laboratory WDM record to three terabits per second. During 1996, MCI had increased the speed of its Internet backbone by a factor of 25, from 45 megabits a second to 1.2 gigabits. On January 6, Fred Briggs, chief engineering officer at MCI, announced that his company is in the process of installing new WDM equipment from Hitachi and Pirelli that increases the speed of its phone network backbone to 40 gigabits per second. Accelerating MCI's previous plans by some two years, the new system will use a more limited form of wavelength-division multiplexing to put four 10-gigabit in-cause formation streams on a single fiber thread. The first deployment will use existing facilities on a 275-mile route between Chicago and St. Louis, but the technology will be extended to the entire network. This move will consummate a nearly thousandfold upgrade of the MCI backbone, from 45 megabits per second to 40 gigabits, within some 36 months. Ciena, meanwhile, has announced technology that allows transmission of 100 gigabits per second. Its February IPO was the most important since Netscape (market cap at the end of the first trading day: $3.4 billion). Why? Ciena is the industry leader in open standard WDM gear. During the first six months the MultiWave 1600 was available, through October 1996, the firm achieved $54.8 million in sales and $15 million in net income. (Lucent is believed to be the overall leader with more than $100 million of mostly proprietary AT&T systems.) At the same time, the trans-Pacific consortium announced that it would deploy 100-gigabit-per-second fiber in its new link between the United States and Asia. A powerful new player in these markets will be Tellabs, currently the fastest-growing supplier of electronic digital cross-connect switches and other optical switching gear. In a further coup, following its purchase of broadband digital radio pioneer Steinbrecher, Tellabs has signed up all 12 principals in IBM's all-optical team. Headed by Paul Green, recent chairman of the IEEE Communications Society and author of the leading text on fiber networks, and by Rajiv Ramaswami, coauthor of a new 1997 text on the subject, the IBM group built the world's first fully functioning all-optical networks (AONs), the Rainbow series. Tellabs now owns the 11 AON patents and 100 listed technology disclosures of the group. The implications of the WDM paradigm go beyond simple data pipes. The greatest impact of all-optical technology will likely come in consumer markets. A portent is Artel Video Systems of Marlborough, Massachusetts, which recently introduced a fiber-based WDM system that can transmit 48 digital video channels, 288 CD-quality audio bitstreams, and 64 data channels on one fiber line. Aggregating contributions from a variety of content sources--each on different fiber wavelengths--and delivering them to consumers who tune into favored frequencies on conventional cable, the Artel system represents a key step into the fibersphere. It can be used for new services by either cable TV companies or telcos. The deeper significance of the Artel product, however, is its use of bandwidth as a replacement for transistors and switches. The Artel system works on dark fiber without compression. The video uses 200-megabit-per-second bitstreams (compare MPEG2 at 4 to 6 megabytes per second) that permit lossless transmissions suitable for medical imaging, and obviate dedicated processing of compression codes at the two ends. A move to massively parallel communications analogous to the move to parallel computers, all-optical networks promise nearly boundless bandwidth in fiber. According to Ewart Lowe of British Telecom, whose labs at Martlesham Heath in Ipswich have been a fount of all-optical technology, the new paradigm will reduce the cost of transport by a factor of 10. For example, the optoelectronic amplifiers previously used in fiber networks entailed nine power-hungry bipolar microchips for each wavelength, rather than a simple loop of doped silica that covers scores of wavelengths. As these systems move down through the network hierarchy, the growth of network bandwidth and cost-effectiveness will not only outpace Moore's law, it will also excel the rise in bandwidth within computers--their internal "buses" connecting their microprocessors to memory and input-output. While MCI and Sprint move to deploy technology that functions at 40 gigabits a second, current computers and workstations command buses that run at a rate of close to 1 gigabit a second. This change in the relationship between the bandwidth of networks and the bandwidth of computers will transform the architecture of information technology. As Robert Lucky of Bellcore puts it, "Perhaps we should transmit signals thousands of miles to avoid even the simplest processing function." Lucky implies that the law of the telecosm eclipses the law of the microcosm. Actually, the law of the microcosm makes distributed computers (smart terminals) more efficient regardless of the cost of linking them together. The law of the telecosm makes broadband networks more efficient regardless of how numerous and smart are the terminals. Working together, however, these two laws of wires and switches impel ever more widely distributed information systems, with processing and memory in the optimal locations. WHAT SHOULD THE MAJOR PLAYERS DO NOW? FOR THE TELEPHONE COMPANIES, the age of ever smarter terminals mandates the emergence of ever dumber networks. Telephone companies may complain of the large costs of the transformation of their system, but they command capital budgets as large as the total revenues of the cable industry. Telcos may recoil in horror at the idea of dark fiber, but they command webs of the stuff 10 times larger than any other industry. Dumb and dark networks may not fit the phone company self-image or advertising posture. But they promise larger markets than the current phone company plan to choke off their own future in the labyrinthine nets of an "intelligent switching fabric" always behind schedule and full of software bugs. Telephone switches (now 80% software) are already too complex to keep pace with the efflorescence of the Internet. While computers become ever more lean and mean, turning to reduced instruction-set processors and Java stations, networks need to adopt reduced instruction-set architectures. The ultimate in dumb and dark is the fibersphere now incubating in their magnificent laboratories. The entrepreneurial folk in the computer industry may view this wrenching phone company adjustment with some satisfaction. But computer firms must also adjust. Now addicted to the use of transistors to solve the problems of limited bandwidth, the computer industry must use transistors to exploit the nearly unlimited bandwidth. When home-based machines are optimized for manipulating high-resolution digital video at high speeds, they will necessarily command what are now called supercomputer powers. This will mean that the dominant computer technology will first emerge not in the office market but in the consumer market. The major challenge for the computer industry is to change its focus from a few hundred million offices already full of computer technology to a billion living rooms now nearly devoid of it. Cable companies possess the advantage of already owning dumb networks based on the essentials of the all-optical model of broadcast and select--of customers seeking wavelengths or frequencies rather than switching circuits. Cable companies already provide all the programs to all the terminals and allow them to tune in to the desired messages. But the cable industry cannot become a full-service supplier of telecommunications unless the regulators give up their ridiculous two-wire dream in which everyone competes with cable and no one makes any money. Cash-poor and bandwidth-rich, cable companies need to collaborate with telcos--which are cash-rich and bandwidth-poor--in a joint effort to create broadband systems in their own regions. In all eras, companies tend to prevail by maximizing the use of the cheapest resources. In the age of the fibersphere, they will use the huge intrinsic bandwidth of fiber, all 25,000 gigahertz or more, to simplify everything else. This means replacing nearly all the hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of switches, bridges, routers, converters, codecs, compressors, error correctors, and other devices, together with the trillions of lines of software code, that pervade the intelligent switching fabric of both telephone and computer networks. The makers of all this equipment will resist mightily. But there is no chance that the old regime can prevail by fighting cheap and simple optics with costly and complex electronics and software. The all-optical network will triumph for the same reason that the integrated circuit triumphed: It is incomparably cheaper than the competition. Today, measured by the admittedly rough metric of mips per dollar, a personal computer is more than 2,000 times more cost-effective than a mainframe. Within 10 years, the all-optical network will be thousands of times more cost-effective than electronic networks. Just as the electron rules in computers, the photon will rule the waves of communication. I know people would not write it..But worth a try:)

a republican politician the rev dr kamal karna k roy, u s presidential candidate, a contender nomination GOP ? 4.3. 2008 new york karna | Open Question Resolved Question: cOURT ACTION FOR... AMENDED COMMENT :THE REVEREND DR KAMAL KARNA ROY AS ON 2.2. 2008 FILED A CIVIL RIGHTS ALLEGATION IN u s DISTRICT COURT FOR NEW JERSEY DISTRICT AT TRENTON N J, AGAINST ABOUT 300+ DEFENDANTS WHO WERE ENGAGED IN CAUSING PAIN, HARMS AND DEMOCRATIC DAMAGES LIKE PRE DEATH PAINS TO A U S PATRIOT FOR DENIAL OF DEMOCRATIC BENEFITS TO THE REVEREND DR ROY AS HE WAS AN ORDAINED CLERGY ON VOW OR POVERTY, I R S RULE, AND AS SUCH , HE REMAINED POOR MOST OF HIS LIFE, AND HE WAS A U S AMERIAN POOR, AND HE WAS A MEMBER OF WEAKER COMMUNITIES IN USA AND WAS A MEMBER OF MILLIONS OF HAVE_ NOT IN USA, ABOUT 10 % OF TOTAL U S POPULATION OR 300 MILLIONS IN U S.S , AS SUCH DR WAS VIRTUALLY LEFT OUT BY THE U S NEWS MEDIA AND NEWS MEDIA CONGLOMERATES , AS A CANDIDATE OF HIGH OFFICE AS U S PRESIDENT 2008 FILED ACTION PRO SE ON 2.2.2008 IN THE U S DISTRICT FOR DISTRICT OF NEW JERSEY, TRENTON DIVISION TRENTOAMENDED COMMENT :THE REVEREND DR KAMAL KARNA ROY AS ON 2.2. 2008 FILED A CIVIL RIGHTS ALLEGATION : more.. 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The example that he cited are based on relationships, yes- whether they be a cousin or a hairdresser. However, the GREAT BIG DIFFERENCE is that when someone goes out of their way to verbally expound the degree of influence that someone has on you as well as when you tout this person as a role model or "mentor" - well now this is VERY dofferent. By doing this, you indeed are connecting yourself to this person in every way since you indicated that their beliefs were used to mentor and foster your own beliefs. When you look up to someone as a mentor or role model, you are believing in the basic principles of theirs. Obama's open statements to th ereverend being his spiritual mentor and best friend makes his beliefs as suspect as the reverend's. In addition, Obama can now denounce all he wants to but how could he be a parishioner for 17 years and listen to these types of statements if as Obama NOW states are "outrageous"? I think that we need to realy questiob Obama's truthfullness or question his judgement. In either case, the country should seriously reconsider any support for such a candidate. It is frightening that Obama's paltform really emphasizes "change" and his real agenda would seem to indicate other.We need to change our support to Senator Clinton and assure her success in November.3/17/2008 9:05:12 PMRecommend (0) Report Abuse Discussion Policy LISANROY wrote:amemended comments of dr kamal roy dt 3,17,2008LISANROY wrote:COMmENTS OF REV DR KAMAL KARNA Karuna ROY A REPUBLICAN CANIDATE AND HoPEFUL TO BE the NOMINEE OF GOP IN SCHEDULED ELECTION FOr NOV 4, 2008, IF BE HELD WITHOUT any COURT ORDER OF INJUNCTION to postpone corrpt election as PRAYED BY DR kamal k k ROY ALLEGING SKY_HIGH AND CLOUD_DARK CORRUPTIONS BY DEFENDANTS IN CIVIL ACTIONS FILED IN 20+ U S D COURT actions in 20+ different JURISDICTIONS with allegations against defendants for negligence to enforce laws not TO PUSH OUT ELECTORAL CONTESTANTS FROM WEAKER COMMUNITIES OF HAVE-nots 3/17/2008 9:04:05 PMRecommend (0) Report Abuse Discussion Policy rmorris391 wrote:well this is "midly amusing". While I am generally an advocate of Kinsley, and Slate magazine, as well as, Time magazine. I must take umbrage, with the sacastic tone of this tome. It is a thinly veiled attempt to incite debate over issues, and non-issues, which may be unrelated to the national campaign. While the Mainstream Media (MSM) has too much time on its hands, to consider a long winded campaign, the focus has shifted to non-political discourse, about intractable problems that confound american society. We have issues related to baseball players, after all, who alledgedly used illegal substances to puff up their biceps. Certainly, congress can devise a surge campaign to intervene with major league baseball, and save the poor players from the rich players. After all, the economic crisis in MLB is looming, and requires some "foreign ownership equity." This is, afterall the land of "ownership." At least that is what a young president Bush promised the american public. Once a new president is elected, a series of "signing agreements" can be implemented to remove my umbrages.3/17/2008 8:54:47 PMRecommend (0) Report Abuse Discussion Policy LL22102 wrote:Man.... Youre in trouble... You used the N word.3/17/2008 8:51:00 PMRecommend (0) Report Abuse Discussion Policy LISANROY wrote:COMENTS OF REV DR KAMAL KARNAK ROY A REPUBLICAN CANIDATE AND HPEFUL TO BE NOMINEE OF GOP IN SCHEDULED ELECTION FO NOV 4, 2008, IF BNE HELD WITHOUT COURT ORDER OF INJUNCTION PRAYED BY DR ROY ALLEGING SKY_HIGHJ ANMD CLOUD_DARK CORRUPTIONS BY DEFENDANTS IN CIVIL ACTIONS FILED IN 20+ U S D COURT JURISDICTIONS TO PUSH OUT ELECTORAL CONTESTANTS FROM WEAKER COMMUNITIES OF HAVE-nots in usa, viz rev dr kamal roy, an ondained clegy on vow of poverty declarations with i r s, i e dr roy is u s american poor and a member of weaker communities. Dr roy may not be a quiter from electoral race as a victim of corruptions and he will moe upto u s suprem court until jutie doo are opened to weaker people o uitably contest and may be win us presidency some day in decades ......as a woman is trying for presidency and 1/ 2african_american (black is thriving for presidency in 2008 , w theb hy not a member of have_not community successfuly capture u s presidency, but if the inequitable condition prevail then it may take a revolution or two to make way to succeed asis current jungle democratic condition all over the globe including in usa wherin democracy is defacto a powerplay of super rich, powerfuls, elites in society, human_gods , devils of democracy et al...pakistan poltical parties may keep president musarraf until his end of curren term without questioning his lawfulness in the post and judges who were terminated by musarrf shall not handle the agreement of political parties who came recently in power may create peace in the yet volatile state of pakistan. In view political environment is so clouded to peaceful solutions in groups of divisions and conflicts, a middle couse in between musarraf and political parties appear essential to keep peace in pakistan. opinion/comment repackaged by assistants to the rev kamal karna roy, a u s republican hopeful nd demanding to be nominated as mr clean republican nominee for u s president 2008 no election if be held on time rev lisa n r alston, chief campaign of dr roy for u s president 2008Your Comments On...Needed: Honesty on IraqWithout tying their hands, the candidates need to answer hard questions.start making similar demands. Ah, democracy in action.UPDATE, 11:51 p.m.: Searching my inbox, I noticed that the Obama campaign has announced seven superdelegate pickups since March 4. So there might be something to my "steady drip" theory. With seven weeks until Pennsylvania, a constant stream of superdelegate endorsements is a good way to create the impression of momentum--whether or not the supers in question decided to endorse today, yesterday or last month. Conversely, a sudden flood this week might've struck observers as a show of pre-March 4 support--and left them wondering whether Obama could keep attracting superdelegates after Clinton's wins in Ohio and Texas. Now it *looks like* he is.Hillary Clinton, Barack ObamaPermalink: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/03/06/the-stumper-superdelegate-watch-part-iii-of.aspx Sphere It! Digg It! Newsvine Del.icio.us Facebook Type SizePrint Email RSS Social Networks Permalink: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/03/06/the-stumper-superdelegate-watch-part-iii-of.aspx TrackBack URL: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/trackback.aspx?PostID=226250 Sphere It! Digg It! Newsvine Del.icio.us Facebook Thanks for sharing your feedback! If your feedback doesn't appear right away, please be patient as it may take a few minutes to publish - or longer if the blogger is moderating comments. DiscussEnter Your CommentSubmit Member Comments Posted By: CANDIDATE_REPUBLICAN (March 16, 2008 at 7:19 PM) Black voters, a disaffected young and independent electorate coupled with a disenchanted Black community can easily translate into a drop off of 20% of the turnout. This calculus can be even more devastating in the 11 states that had African American voter turnout percentages of 13% or more in 2004. As the young people might say- the Democrats better recognize!Posted by: theradioactivist | March 16, 2008 05:30 PM Nancy Pelozi doesn't care who will be the best president. Nancy Pelozi is only interested in her representatives electibility for the House, which Nancy controls.Nancy Pelozi is looking less and less attractive as a political figure. She says the right things the Democrats want to hear, and next thing you know, there she is smiling, and grinning ear to ear, standing behind the President while he signs legislation we don't want. gw.Posted by: Iowatreasures | March 16, 2008 05:30 PM j9zig1I believe the correct term is St. Paddy's day. D's, not T's. Otherwise, I find your analysis flawless.Posted by: daweeni | March 16, 2008 05:33 PM Posted by: artemis26:So your argument is that "crossovers" would not vote for Obama in the general? Just clarifying, not being confrontational.______________I don't think they will. He is untested. Has done litt3/17/2008 8:50:49 PMRecommend (0) Report Abuse Discussion Policy LISANROY wrote:3.17. 2008 NEW YORKCOMMENTS OF THE RE DR KAMAL KARNA KARUNA ROY AKA JOSEPH GERONIMO JR (BORN IN GUAM, A U S TERRITORY, PURSUANT TO U S ACT 1978 A US CITIZEN BY BIRTH) A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND HOPEFUL TO BE MR CLEAN REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE FOR SCHEDULED NOV 4 2008 ELECTION IF BE HELD WITHOUT INJUNCTION TO POSTPONE ELECTION FOR DEEPROOTED CORRUPTIONS BY THE DEFENDANTS 440+ NOS0 TO SCREEN OUT BOB_ELITE CANDIDATE VIZ KAMAL KARNA ROY , AN ORDAINED CLERGY ON VOW OF POVERTY ( SEE WEBSITES WIH SEARCH WORDS 3 TO 5 WORDS AT A TIME WITH KAMAL KARNA ROY U S PRESIDENT 2008 REPUBLICAN JUNGLE DEMOCRACY ET AL TO FIND DETAILS ABOUT DR ROY .PHOTO CAN BE SEEN IN WEB PROJECT VOTE SMART KAMAL KARNA ROY.......pakistan poltical parties may keep president musarraf until his end of curren term without questioning his lawfulness in the post and judges who were terminated by musarrf shall not handle the agreement of political parties who came recently in power may create peace in the yet volatile state of pakistan. In view political environment is so clouded to peaceful solutions in groups of divisions and conflicts, a middle couse in between musarraf and political parties appear essential to keep peace in pakistan. opinion/comment repackaged by assistants to the rev kamal karna roy, a u s republican hopeful nd demanding to be nominated as mr clean republican nominee for u s president 2008 no election if be held on time rev lisa n r alston, chief campaign of dr roy for u s president 2008Your Comments On...Needed: Honesty on IraqWithout tying their hands, the candidates need to answer hard questions.start making similar demands. Ah, democracy in action.UPDATE, 11:51 p.m.: Searching my inbox, I noticed that the Obama campaign has announced seven superdelegate pickups since March 4. So there might be something to my "steady drip" theory. With seven weeks until Pennsylvania, a constant stream of superdelegate endorsements is a good way to create the impression of momentum--whether or not the supers in question decided to endorse today, yesterday or last month. Conversely, a sudden flood this week might've struck observers as a show of pre-March 4 support--and left them wondering whether Obama could keep attracting superdelegates after Clinton's wins in Ohio and Texas. Now it *looks like* he is.Hillary Clinton, Barack ObamaPermalink: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/03/06/the-stumper-superdelegate-watch-part-iii-of.aspx Sphere It! Digg It! Newsvine Del.icio.us Facebook Type SizePrint Email RSS Social Networks Permalink: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/03/06/the-stumper-superdelegate-watch-part-iii-of.aspx TrackBack URL: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/trackback.aspx?PostID=226250 Sphere It! Digg It! Newsvine Del.icio.us Facebook Thanks for sharing your feedback! If your feedback doesn't appear right away, please be patient as it may take a few minutes to publish - or longer if the blogger is moderating comments. DiscussEnter Your CommentSubmit Member Comments Posted By: CANDIDATE_REPUBLICAN (March 16, 2008 at 7:19 PM) Black voters, a disaffected young and independent electorate coupled with a disenchanted Black community can easily translate into a drop off of 20% of the turnout. This calculus can be even more devastating in the 11 states that had African American voter turnout percentages of 13% or more in 2004. As the young people might say- the Democrats better recognize!Posted by: theradioactivist | March 16, 2008 05:30 PM Nancy Pelozi doesn't care who will be the best president. Nancy Pelozi is only interested in her representatives electibility for the House, which Nancy controls.Nancy Pelozi is looking less and less attractive as a political figure. She says the right things the Democrats want to hear, and next thing you know, there she is smiling, and grinning ear to ear, standing behind the President while he signs legislation we don't want. gw.Posted by: Iowatreasures | March 16, 2008 05:30 PM j9zig1I believe the correct term is St. Paddy's day. D's, not T's. Otherwise, I find your analysis flawless.Posted by: daweeni | March 16, 2008 05:33 PM Posted by: artemis26:So your argument is that "crossovers" would not vote for Obama in the general? Just clarifying, not being confrontational.______________I don't think they will. He is untested. Has done little in the senate but run for president. The Wright story was not out when he was getting votes from whites due to his "unity" message. It falls flat now. As I said before, I think he loses that Wright issue any way you slice it. Either he didn't think his church was controversial or he didn't know. Which is it? Supporting someone who you say is your "mentor" who says "appalling" things with thousands of dollars is worse than saying them yourself. At least the pastor is being honest. Posted by: j9zig1 | March 16, 2008 05:35 PM NO OBAMA. My reasons are expressed here.www.taylormarsh.comPosted by: mjno | March 16, 2008 05:36 PM Change Preferences | Sign Out Sign In | Register Now Print Edition | Subscribe NewsNation Investigations Education Photos & Video World Technology KidsPost Discussions Metro Entertainment Religion Corrections Business Health Post Magazine Archives PoliticsPolitics Blogs House/Senate Votes White House Congress 2008 Campaign In Depth Polls In the Loop DC | MD | VA OpinionsOpinions Home Toles Cartoons On Faith Blogs Telnaes Animations PostGlobal Feedback Outlook Discussion Groups LocalMetro News Weather Local Explorer Jobs Education Traffic Community Guides Cars DC | MD | VACrime The Extras Real Estate Columns/Blogs Obituaries Local Business Yellow Pages SportsRedskins D.C. 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WillCommentsLISANROY wrote:obama. hillary and mcCain all three have shown their deficits in public image which create deep concern among we the people in usa to investgate/ reopen investigations on female lobbyist pleasure pursuit for influence pedalling (felony charg)against, i r s tax fraud by obama for easy and convinient financing of r /e deal involving obamas house in illinois , in assistance of rezco but obama criminally did not report to i r s for his gain in money in sweet_heart financing on the deal, even gain in illegal conduct on this , the shrewed obama , as reported did not report gain to irs, and that a felony; similarly hillary 1/2 successfully evaded issue of corruption in her involvement in white water r/e scandal , which she temporarily delayed or evaded in wearing cloak of a clintonian first woman. she is not wearing any defence cloak, so f b i et al lawfully and easily punish her for her abusive tendency to common we the people. many in arkansas lost money for hillary's high handed orruption . We the people in usa should not reawad her with u s presidency and we the people would like to see her established in a correction house for her corruption if proved in laws of u s court and bar her for a federal full time job of u s president w e f 1.20. 2009'3/17/2008 8:23:44 PMRecommend (0) Report Abuse Discussion Policy more.. Tag : democracy does | revolving doors | Open Question Resolved Question: no no no to... obama shall definitely prove another presidential hopeful of democrats like rudy giuliani of republicans.Obama's abusive deal in purchase of his home purchase reveals a way of wise people in USA to cut short cut deal.But such short circuit for personal gain is very mischievous when it came to natiional interests and it shall definitely arouse loss of faiths in leadership andpeole turn divisive.It is " we the people" to be decisive to stop his hope with additional scrutiny to lead to denial of patriotic job of a u s Presedent 2008. USA is d9vided on issues. we the people can not burden odd issues to add to confusion.Pl elect the clean person as leader and they are in groups of presoidential hpefuls. we the people may have to cross party_line to elect a dependable leader who may comman pulic faith: jerry alston , with consent of a us presiodential, republian hopeful, the rev dr Kamal karna k roy : see the following;Thanks to everyone who donated in the Wikimedia Foundation fundraiser! You can still make a contribution, or buy Wikimedia merchandise. Kamal Karna RoyFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, searchKamal Karna Roy Born GUAM, A u S TERRITORY IN PACIFIC Residence United States Nationality U S CITIZEN BY BIRTH, PURSUANT TO u s ACT OF 1978, FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE BORM IN GUAM AND in MARIANA ISLANDS in Pacific Ocean regions ,AND who were LIVING IN usa ON DAY OF ENACTMENT OF THE SAId ACT OF 1978. Other names the Rev Dr Joseph Geronimo , Jr.Kamal K. K. Roy.KAMAL KARNA K. ROY Known for as ACTIVIST IN SOCIAL REFORMS IN RESPECTS OF GOD/S, RELIGIONS, PEOPLE, hUMAN_GOD/S ( PEOPLE WITH LEADERSHIP AND APPARENT OR REAL POWERS TO EXERT RIGHTS ON PUBLIC WITH GOOD OR ANY INTENTION OF PUBLIC OR PRIVATE IDEOLOGIES VIZ LATE Iraqi Dictator_President :SADAM HUSSAIN OF IRAQ WHILE HE WAS IN POWER OF UN_NAMED U.S PRESIDENT/S WITH severe CONTROVERSIES IN PUBLIC POLICIES IN MAINLAND usa OR WORLD_WIDE democracies, SAY A ruling GENERAL IN SOME POWER IN SOUTH ASIA. Education has an M B A DEGREE (m s IN SPECIALISATION IN tRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT FROM suny MARITIME COLLEGE , the BRONX, NEW YORK CITY, usa ; STUDIED ADVANCED COURSE LEADING TO ADVANCED CERT. IN pUBLIC ADMN. FROM usda gRADUATE SCHOOL, WASHINTON dc ( SCHOOL id :578- 80- 4399 ; he has 2 Doctoral degrees in management science in fields of management Science and another in field/faculty of Religions / god/s/people from foreign school He has a bachelor's degree in law from foreign cchool of laws and management. He further took in education s in University of Rhode Island,both at Providence and Kingston , in usa and other schools viz City university of new York,Baruch college, New york city, usa et al Employer volunteer ordained clergy with vow of poverty ( U S IRS rule for ordained clergies in USA .group Handicap interests international world religions group. 107 A Scribner avenue, staten Island , New york city, n y 10301, USA Occupation activist, mobile clergy, electronic preacher of multiple or unique god/s and religions , et al. Title mobile clergy,Political activist USA and around globe; currently he is a u s presidential hopeful / candidate for 2008 electoral competition from Republican Party in New York ; strategist for common / weaker people, disadvantaged people in democracy in usa et al to claim leadership including the 2008 Presidency electoral competition: the weaker people aresegregated and removed from electoral race by stategic powerful block in democracy in U S republic including the news media and news conglomerates. see court actions pending in the main article of Dr kamal Karna Roy. strategist of god/s , religions, people, et al, activist Height 5' 8'Political party Republican ( GOP)of usa Religious stance world religions/ multiple religions in unique body and soul and a proponent of the strategy. Spouse a common law wife Children some, maintained by natural mother concerned Kamal Karna Roy (a/k/a Kamal K.K. Roy, a/k/a Rev. Dr. Joseph Geronimo, Jr.) is a prolific pro se litigant who, since at least the early 1990s, has filed numerous lawsuits throughout the United States and its territories under the names Roy and Joseph Geronimo, Jr., as well as under the names of entities that he is affiliated with, including International Siva Consciousness & World Religions, Reforms International, Handicap Interests International, and Jungle Democracy.[1] Roy's lawsuits are often brought against multiple defendants, and feature long, unconventional complaints. Roy has filed lawsuits against God, U.S. Presidents, Supreme Court Justices, fast food restaurants, foreign leaders.[2], and Wikipedia [3] [4].Roy's lawsuits have addressed, among many other things, actions taken by President George W. Bush, overcharging by telecommunication companies, the appointment of Chief Justice John Roberts to the Supreme Court, and "failure of democratic societies and God's role therein."[5] In 2006 Judge Michael W. McConnell of The United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit described a typical Roy complaint:Roy, a/k/a Joseph Geronimo, Jr. filed a 115-page complaint, a 144-page amended complaint, and a 40-page second amended complaint against over sixty defendants, including among many others President Bush, God as U.S.-based divine benefactor, several government agencies, The New York Times, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. In addition to pages of rambling discourse, the complaint contains numerous illegible handwritten remarks.[6]The Tenth Circuit went on to affirm the district court's dismissal of the complaint holding that no discernible claim was apparent from the complaint. Judge McConnell also humorously noted that the court "strongly suspect[ed] at least one defendant was not properly served."[7]Most, if not all, of Roy's complaints have been dismissed. A 2006 United States District Court for the District of Delaware opinion, Jungle Democracy v. U.S., describes Roy as "no stranger to litigation" and provides a partial list of Roy lawsuits that have been dismissed since 1991.[8]Despite Roy's lack of success in the courts, his lawsuits have been discussed in law school classrooms and in law related blogs.[9] [10]In April 2007 Roy filed a civil rights action against, among others, CBS Broadcasting Inc., MSNBC, the United States Government, and controversial radio shock jock Don Imus.[11]In October, 2007, Roy filed a suit in the US District Court, Middle District of Florida, against "Wikipedia Encyclopedia, USA, All News Media, All State Board of Elections, Federal Election Commission". See Dkt. 3:07-cv-00994-VMC-HTS.[edit] References^ Jungle Democracy v. U.S., No. CIV.06-503-SLR, 2006 WL 2616213, at *1 (D. Del. Sept. 12, 2006) ^ Roy v. U.S., No. CIV.06-685-SLR 2007 WL 1109296 at *1 (D. Del. Apr. 11, 2007) ^ http://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-new_hampshire/court-nhdce/noscat-5/ ^ http://www.area603.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=1460&blogId=6 ^ Id. ^ Jungle Democracy v. USA Government at Washington, DC & at Denver, 206 Fed.Appx. 756 (C.A.10, 2006) ^ Id. at 757 ^ Jungle Democracy, 2006 WL 2616213, at *1 ^ http://howappealing.law.com/112106.html#019767 ^ http://enmasse.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?p=81431&sid=fbaa29156d22ef55f5adbe22febfcfe8 ^ http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-dedce/case_no-1:2007cv00206/case_id-38087/ Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Karna_Roy"Categories: Uncategorised people | Year of birth missing (living people) | Place of birth missing (living people) | Living peopleViewsArticle Discussion Edit this page History Watch Personal toolsKamal karna roy My talk My preferences My watchlist My contributions Log out NavigationMain page Contents Featured content Current events Random article interactionAbout Wikipedia Community portal Recent changes Contact Wikipedia Donate to Wikipedia Help SearchToolboxWhat links here Related changes Upload file Special pages Printable version Permanent link Cite this article This page was last modified 18:00, 29 October 2007. All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License. (See Copyrights for details.) Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a U.S. registered 501(c)(3) tax-deductible nonprofit charity.Privacy policy About Wikipedia Disclaimers more.. Tag : Obama reverend | hillary clinton | Resolved Question Resolved Question: newer view of usa... Thanks to everyone who donated in the Wikimedia Foundation fundraiser! You can still make a contribution, or buy Wikimedia merchandise. Kamal Karna RoyFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, searchKamal Karna Roy Born GUAM, A u S TERRITORY IN PACIFIC Residence United States Nationality U S CITIZEN BY BIRTH, PURSUANT TO u s ACT OF 1978, FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE BORM IN GUAM AND in MARIANA ISLANDS in Pacific Ocean regions ,AND who were LIVING IN usa ON DAY OF ENACTMENT OF THE SAId ACT OF 1978. Other names the Rev Dr Joseph Geronimo , Jr.Kamal K. K. Roy.KAMAL KARNA K. ROY Known for as ACTIVIST IN SOCIAL REFORMS IN RESPECTS OF GOD/S, RELIGIONS, PEOPLE, hUMAN_GOD/S ( PEOPLE WITH LEADERSHIP AND APPARENT OR REAL POWERS TO EXERT RIGHTS ON PUBLIC WITH GOOD OR ANY INTENTION OF PUBLIC OR PRIVATE IDEOLOGIES VIZ LATE Iraqi Dictator_President :SADAM HUSSAIN OF IRAQ WHILE HE WAS IN POWER OF UN_NAMED U.S PRESIDENT/S WITH severe CONTROVERSIES IN PUBLIC POLICIES IN MAINLAND usa OR WORLD_WIDE democracies, SAY A ruling GENERAL IN SOME POWER IN SOUTH ASIA. Education has an M B A DEGREE (m s IN SPECIALISATION IN tRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT FROM suny MARITIME COLLEGE , the BRONX, NEW YORK CITY, usa ; STUDIED ADVANCED COURSE LEADING TO ADVANCED CERT. IN pUBLIC ADMN. FROM usda gRADUATE SCHOOL, WASHINTON dc ( SCHOOL id :578- 80- 4399 ; he has 2 Doctoral degrees in management science in fields of management Science and another in field/faculty of Religions / god/s/people from foreign school He has a bachelor's degree in law from foreign cchool of laws and management. He further took in education s in University of Rhode Island,both at Providence and Kingston , in usa and other schools viz City university of new York,Baruch college, New york city, usa et al Employer volunteer ordained clergy with vow of poverty ( U S IRS rule for ordained clergies in USA .group Handicap interests international world religions group. 107 A Scribner avenue, staten Island , New york city, n y 10301, USA Occupation activist, mobile clergy, electronic preacher of multiple or unique god/s and religions , et al. Title mobile clergy,Political activist USA and around globe; currently he is a u s presidential hopeful / candidate for 2008 electoral competition from Republican Party in New York ; strategist for common / weaker people, disadvantaged people in democracy in usa et al to claim leadership including the 2008 Presidency electoral competition: the weaker people aresegregated and removed from electoral race by stategic powerful block in democracy in U S republic including the news media and news conglomerates. see court actions pending in the main article of Dr kamal Karna Roy. strategist of god/s , religions, people, et al, activist Height 5' 8'Political party Republican ( GOP)of usa Religious stance world religions/ multiple religions in unique body and soul and a proponent of the strategy. Spouse a common law wife Children some, maintained by natural mother concerned Kamal Karna Roy (a/k/a Kamal K.K. Roy, a/k/a Rev. Dr. Joseph Geronimo, Jr.) is a prolific pro se litigant who, since at least the early 1990s, has filed numerous lawsuits throughout the United States and its territories under the names Roy and Joseph Geronimo, Jr., as well as under the names of entities that he is affiliated with, including International Siva Consciousness & World Religions, Reforms International, Handicap Interests International, and Jungle Democracy.[1] Roy's lawsuits are often brought against multiple defendants, and feature long, unconventional complaints. Roy has filed lawsuits against God, U.S. Presidents, Supreme Court Justices, fast food restaurants, foreign leaders.[2], and Wikipedia [3] [4].Roy's lawsuits have addressed, among many other things, actions taken by President George W. Bush, overcharging by telecommunication companies, the appointment of Chief Justice John Roberts to the Supreme Court, and "failure of democratic societies and God's role therein."[5] In 2006 Judge Michael W. McConnell of The United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit described a typical Roy complaint:Roy, a/k/a Joseph Geronimo, Jr. filed a 115-page complaint, a 144-page amended complaint, and a 40-page second amended complaint against over sixty defendants, including among many others President Bush, God as U.S.-based divine benefactor, several government agencies, The New York Times, and Kentucky Fried Chicken. In addition to pages of rambling discourse, the complaint contains numerous illegible handwritten remarks.[6]The Tenth Circuit went on to affirm the district court's dismissal of the complaint holding that no discernible claim was apparent from the complaint. Judge McConnell also humorously noted that the court "strongly suspect[ed] at least one defendant was not properly served."[7]Most, if not all, of Roy's complaints have been dismissed. A 2006 United States District Court for the District of Delaware opinion, Jungle Democracy v. U.S., describes Roy as "no stranger to litigation" and provides a partial list of Roy lawsuits that have been dismissed since 1991.[8]Despite Roy's lack of success in the courts, his lawsuits have been discussed in law school classrooms and in law related blogs.[9] [10]In April 2007 Roy filed a civil rights action against, among others, CBS Broadcasting Inc., MSNBC, the United States Government, and controversial radio shock jock Don Imus.[11]In October, 2007, Roy filed a suit in the US District Court, Middle District of Florida, against "Wikipedia Encyclopedia, USA, All News Media, All State Board of Elections, Federal Election Commission". See Dkt. 3:07-cv-00994-VMC-HTS.[edit] References^ Jungle Democracy v. U.S., No. CIV.06-503-SLR, 2006 WL 2616213, at *1 (D. Del. Sept. 12, 2006) ^ Roy v. U.S., No. CIV.06-685-SLR 2007 WL 1109296 at *1 (D. Del. Apr. 11, 2007) ^ http://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-new_hampshire/court-nhdce/noscat-5/ ^ http://www.area603.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=1460&blogId=6 ^ Id. ^ Jungle Democracy v. USA Government at Washington, DC & at Denver, 206 Fed.Appx. 756 (C.A.10, 2006) ^ Id. at 757 ^ Jungle Democracy, 2006 WL 2616213, at *1 ^ http://howappealing.law.com/112106.html#019767 ^ http://enmasse.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?p=81431&sid=fbaa29156d22ef55f5adbe22febfcfe8 ^ http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-dedce/case_no-1:2007cv00206/case_id-38087/ Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Karna_Roy"Categories: Uncategorised people | Year of birth missing (living people) | Place of birth missing (living people) | Living peopleViewsArticle Discussion Edit this page History Watch Personal toolsKamal karna roy My talk My preferences My watchlist My contributions Log out NavigationMain page Contents Featured content Current events Random article interactionAbout Wikipedia Community portal Recent changes Contact Wikipedia Donate to Wikipedia Help SearchToolboxWhat links here Related changes Upload file Special pages Printable version Permanent link Cite this article This page was last modified 18:00, 29 October 2007. All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License. (See Copyrights for details.) Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a U.S. registered 501(c)(3) tax-deductible nonprofit charity.Privacy policy About Wikipedia Disclaimers more.. Tag : president clean | newer view | Resolved Question Resolved Question: kamal karna roy...

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Do you think Imus' firing was justified? I don't.? Warning - Please be advised the following Commentary contains citations of sexually explicit profanity. -ed When Don Imus referred to a Black women's basketball team as "nappy headed hos" he was using a description ("hos") that Black rappers have popularized on CBS sister stations. CBS is owned by Viacom, http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/viacom.asp%20 which also owns MTV and VHS. These stations are responsible for making this expression part of the national vocabulary. Viacom also owns "Famous Music," which publishes and markets the work of hip-hop and rap artists who portray Black women as "bitches" and "hoes." A cursory search yielded this couplet from Rapper "Cadillac Tah": Bitches come, bitches go But little do they know we don't love them ho's ("Come and Go") So, Imus is double victimized by CBS's owners. First they popularize a derogatory attitude and expression, and then they fire him for using it. The expression is so common that Imus' sidekick actually introduced it into the conversation: "Imus: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and - McGuirk: Some hard-core hos. Imus: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some - woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like - kinda like - I don't know." Imus transgressed because Blacks can call their women "hos," but Whites have to treat them with kid gloves, as an endangered species.(They are a privileged subset of another endangered minority, women.) These Anti-White-Male prejudices were apparent when the CBS President, Leslie Moonves, one of the Original Endangered Minority (upon which all others are modeled,) announced he was firing Imus. "There has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on our young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society," CBS President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves said... "That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision." "Young women of color trying to make their way in this society." Does he mean women like the Black stripper who falsely accused the Duke Lacrosse players of rape? Does he mean language of the kind Viacom is broadcasting, publishing and selling!? You need a shoe shine job The way you polish a knob Backstage panties down eat dick Good-bye Biotch!! (Ya Rule "Extacy") "Young women of color trying to make their way in this society?" That's a laugh! Every corporation, university and government department has orders to rush them to the head of the line! This is confirmed by the next paragraph: "Imus had a long history of inflammatory remarks. But something struck a raw nerve when he targeted the Rutgers team - which includes a class valedictorian, a future lawyer and a musical prodigy - after they lost in the NCAA championship game." Imus' Remarks spawned a feeding frenzy. All the usual sharks--Al Sharpton, Oprah Winfrey, Hilary Clinton, Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama-cashed in. Jackson called the firing "a victory for public decency. No one should use the public airwaves to transmit racial or sexual degradation." Like this from Viacom's "Famous Music" site? Look, Samantha, Loraine, Monica, Veronica Veronica, she treated my dick like a harmonica cock sucker How you think I learned how to twist it and turn Ya back until it's broke, make you feel it in your throat It was Pamela, Linda, Keisha, Nicole Had me fuckin while I was drivin on cruise control Can't wait to get it home and teach it all to you Look I'm just tryna be the best, I'm doin it all for you You know that thing with the peanut butter My Brooklyn bitch said fuck untyin the ropes, it's faster with a box cutter I know you love the way I'm diggin you out But always wanna fuckin argue so let's figure this out I'm just tryna make you happy bitch Who's there for you anytime you get in the mood for suckin a dick (Xzibit, "Fuckin You Right, Restless") Said Sharpton: "[Imus]says he wants to be forgiven. I hope he continues in that process. But we cannot afford a precedent established that the airways can commercialize and mainstream sexism and racism." Who is he kidding? Does he listen to what Viacom is broadcasting? Cops gettin mad cause I paid 'em off, made 'em cough blood and shit That's what the hell you motherfuckers get, we runs this bitch? So hey, you ain't gotta be scared to fuck If you want head, then prepare to suck (do it) Even if the nigga don't care to nut For every stroke, it's a hundred bucks Respect the game, you just a slut So open your legs up and get my duck ("Pimp Like Me" D-12 Devil's Night) The principled men of CBS stand to lose revenues of $15 million a year from Imus' Show. But they make much more than that from promoting and selling this poison. It gets better! Imus has raised more than $40 million dollars to fight SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) and was in the middle of a fund raising marathon Thursday when the announcement was made! Corporate sponsors affirmed their political bona fides by canceling advertising. If you like Imus, boycott the following: American Express Co., Sprint Nextel Corp., Staples Inc., Procter & Gamble Co. and General Motors Corp. But buy Bigelow Tea. " Imus thanked one sponsor, Bigelow Tea, for sticking by him." Another Uncle Tom, Bryan Monroe, president of the National Association of Black Journalists and director of Ebony and Jet magazines, met with Moonves on Wednesday.He urged them ... to take a stand against the coarsening of culture. "Something happened in the last week around America," Monroe said. "It's not just what the radio host did. America said enough is enough. America said we don't want this kind of conversation, we don't want this kind of vitriol, especially with teenagers." Does this guy ever watch MTV? Does he live in the USA? *CONCLUSION* Don Imus is another victim of the Culture War, a ritual sacrifice to the God of political correctness. He is an object lesson for average Americans on when "prejudice and hate" is allowed and when it is not. (Come in Mel Gibson and Michael Richards.) It is allowed against White Christian heterosexuals. See "Imus Treatment Ignored for Catholic Bashers" It is not allowed against Blacks, Jews and homosexuals. I didn't listen to Imus but he also criticized powerful Jews. I don't think /anyone/ should get the Imus treatment. It smacks of the Orwellian thought control, Soviet show trials and Maoist rituals of public chastisement and contrition. It smacks of the New World Order. What is wrong with hatred and prejudice anyway? Do we fault the Holocaust survivor who hates Nazis? Do we blame the battered wife who hates the man who disfigured her? Do we begrudge the Black slave who hates the man who wields the whip? Wouldn't they be less than human not to hate them? I do not believe people hate for no reason. There is a justified hatred that is natural, necessary and human, and we are being conditioned to be impassive. Similarly isn't "prejudice" another term for learning from experience? Often it's really "postjudice." I think most people will change their views when they see that the facts have changed. Then why should we blame people who resent being relegated to second-class citizens in their own country? Who resent that a foreign central banking cartel has taken control of politics and the media? Who resent it flooding the country with aliens in order to change its character? Who resent that marriages and families have been destroyed by Feminism, introduced by those Communist and Media Jews who serve this cartel? Who resent that their young are dying and their nation is being bled dry by the banker's foreign wars? Who resent they are losing their freedom under the guise of a phony war on terror? Who resent that the fearless media doesn't expose the scoundrels who are really responsible for 9-11 and the death of 3000 Americans? The real endangered minority is Don Imus' audience: the average white Christian American. The foreign elites are using minorities to dis-empower the majority. Don Imus may have expressed the majority's resentment. He had to go. Let's make the bastards pay. ---- Henry Makow Ph.D. is the inventor of the game Scruples and author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles exposing fe-manism and the New World Order can be found at his web site www.savethemales.ca He enjoys receiving comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only. hmakow@gmail.com

Please help me with the correct trivia for US99 & other Radio Stations for December 21, 2008? Good Morning all! Before They Were Famous: B) farm hand Champions: C) New York Yankees Country Music Trivia: C) 13 Swarovski: none list yet?! This Day in U.S. History: B) Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince Video of the Day Trivia: Where do you see sleeping? World’s Worst Hotel Guest: What is the first destination under Caribbean? Jamacia You Can Quote Me: A) Dorothy Parker Newsletter: Nutcracker All Access: #82 partner Happy Birthday & Anniversary Month to: Pincio (13th), tjcmstables (15th) Fred G (23rd),Eric –sheb12 son (29th) Sher (31st), Jw and husband (31st 25 years!) nancykep (31st) Who We Are and the stations we listen too! 92.5 JOE FM EDMONTON, AB 92.5 WWYZ HARTFORD, CT. 92.5 LONESTAR DALLAS, TEXAS 92.5 XTU PHILADELPHIA 92.5 WBEE ROCHESTER, NY 92.5 THE WOLF, DENVER 92.9 DAVEFM ATLANTA, GA 93.7 THE BULL TRIVIA 93.9 MOVING CALIFORNIA 94.9 THE SOUND WSWD FM CINCINNATI OHIO 95.3 NEW COUNTRY, HAMILTON ONTARIO 95.5 WFMS INDIANAPOLIS 95.7 MYCLUB MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN 96.5 WCMF ROCHESTER, NEW YORK 96.7 THE TWISER ARLINGTON, TEXAS 96.9 THE EAGLE SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 97.3 ALICE SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA 98 WPXY ROCHESTER, NEW YORK 98.7 KUPL PORTLAND, OR 99.5 WUSN CHICAGO, IL. 99.5 THE RIVER ALBANY, NEW YORK 99.5 WGAR CLEVELAND, OHIO 99.5 THE WOLF TEXAS COUNTRY 99.5 WZPL Z99 INDIANAPOLIS, IN 100.1 KZST SANTA ROSE, CA 100.3 KILT FM HOUSTON, TX 100.7 WMMS CLEVELAND, OHIO Y101 OTTAWA, ONTARIO 101.9 Q102 CINCINNATI’S OHIO 102.1 EDGE DALLAS 102.5 KSFM SACRAMENTO, CA 102.9 MIX 103.9 CISN EDMONTON, AB 105.1 GO COUNTRY LOS ANGELES, CA C105 CALGARY, ALBERTA 105.7 KYKX LONGVIEW, TEXAS 105.9 WHCN THE RIVER HARTFORD, CT 106.1 WMIL MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN 106.1 KISS FM DALLAS, TX 106.1 KISS SEATTLE, WASHINGTON Q107 CLASSIC CALGARY, AB Z107.7 ST. LOUIS, MO 107.9 WNTR THETRACK INDIANAPOLIS, IN update from Lincolns parents! posted 12/20 Thanks to all of your prayers and Gods love, Lincoln has improved throughout the day. I forgot to tell you the results of the cranium ultrasound. The bleeding has stayed the same. It hasn't gotten any better, or any worse. They will continue to monitor it. Our favorite nurse told us that it will resolve itself over time, and we believe that with a God as big as ours, she will be right. from our friend buscandducks: Thank You everyone! Your thoughts and prayers are greatly appreciated. Her first name is Marian. She is 88 so she has lived a long life but it's still hard to see her go. Thank you again. to Cj S hope you can make it home soon! konadan what web site do you use? Hope all that were not feeling good are getting better! Stay safe and warm! and if you have to shovel be careful. To the best group of people I hope all of your Holidays are as special as you are! If you celebrate the festive of lights tonight enjoy! if not I hope you have a Merry Christmas!

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Does anyone know of a site where I can listen to the UK football matches? I live outside of the UK and I am deprived of the UK matches due to restrictions on the radio so I was wndering if anyone knew of a site that works where I can listen to the games without problems... I would love you forever if you could give me a web address...lol

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hello...WOW!? Yahoo!My Yahoo!Mail Make Y! your home pageYahoo! SearchSearch:Welcome, hellzking1 [Sign Out, My Account]Answers Home -Forum -Blog -Help Ask Answer Discover Search for questions: Advanced My Profile Home > Entertainment & Music > Polls & Surveys > Resolved Question Slim Shady of Judah Member since: April 06, 2008 Total points: 74 (Level 1) Add to My Contacts Block User Resolved QuestionShow me another » Poll: Did you like The Oddysey or The Iliad better? I liked the Iliad better. This was my favorite part: Sing, O goddess, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans. Many a brave soul did it send hurrying down to Hades, and many a hero did it yield a prey to dogs and vultures, for so were the counsels of Jove fulfilled from the day on which the son of Atreus, king of men, and great Achilles, first fell out with one another. And which of the gods was it that set them on to quarrel? It was the son of Jove and Leto; for he was angry with the king and sent a pestilence upon the host to plague the people, because the son of Atreus had dishonoured Chryses his priest. Now Chryses had come to the ships of the Achaeans to free his daughter, and had brought with him a great ransom: moreover he bore in his hand the sceptre of Apollo wreathed with a suppliant's wreath and he besought the Achaeans, but most of all the two sons of Atreus, who were their chiefs. "Sons of Atreus," he cried, "and all other Achaeans, may the gods who dwell in Olympus grant you to sack the city of Priam, and to reach your homes in safety; but free my daughter, and accept a ransom for her, in reverence to Apollo, son of Jove." On this the rest of the Achaeans with one voice were for respecting the priest and taking the ransom that he offered; but not so Agamemnon, who spoke fiercely to him and sent him roughly away. "Old man," said he, "let me not find you tarrying about our ships, nor yet coming hereafter. Your sceptre of the god and your wreath shall profit you nothing. I will not free her. She shall grow old in my house at Argos far from her own home, busying herself with her loom and visiting my couch; so go, and do not provoke me or it shall be the worse for you." The old man feared him and obeyed. Not a word he spoke, but went by the shore of the sounding sea and prayed apart to King Apollo whom lovely Leto had borne. "Hear me," he cried, "O god of the silver bow, that protectest Chryse and holy Cilla and rulest Tenedos with thy might, hear me oh thou of Sminthe. If I have ever decked your temple with garlands, or burned your thigh-bones in fat of bulls or goats, grant my prayer, and let your arrows avenge these my tears upon the Danaans." Thus did he pray, and Apollo heard his prayer. He came down furious from the summits of Olympus, with his bow and his quiver upon his shoulder, and the arrows rattled on his back with the rage that trembled within him. He sat himself down away from the ships with a face as dark as night, and his silver bow rang death as he shot his arrow in the midst of them. First he smote their mules and their hounds, but presently he aimed his shafts at the people themselves, and all day long the pyres of the dead were burning. For nine whole days he shot his arrows among the people, but upon the tenth day Achilles called them in assembly- moved thereto by Juno, who saw the Achaeans in their death-throes and had compassion upon them. Then, when they were got together, he rose and spoke among them. "Son of Atreus," said he, "I deem that we should now turn roving home if we would escape destruction, for we are being cut down by war and pestilence at once. Let us ask some priest or prophet, or some reader of dreams (for dreams, too, are of Jove) who can tell us why Phoebus Apollo is so angry, and say whether it is for some vow that we have broken, or hecatomb that we have not offered, and whether he will accept the savour of lambs and goats without blemish, so as to take away the plague from us." With these words he sat down, and Calchas son of Thestor, wisest of augurs, who knew things past present and to come, rose to speak. He it was who had guided the Achaeans with their fleet to Ilius, through the prophesyings with which Phoebus Apollo had inspired him. With all sincerity and goodwill he addressed them thus:- "Achilles, loved of heaven, you bid me tell you about the anger of King Apollo, I will therefore do so; but consider first and swear that you will stand by me heartily in word and deed, for I know that I shall offend one who rules the Argives with might, to whom all the Achaeans are in subjection. A plain man cannot stand against the anger of a king, who if he swallow his displeasure now, will yet nurse revenge till he has wreaked it. Consider, therefore, whether or no you will protect me." And Achilles answered, "Fear not, but speak as it is borne in upon you from heaven, for by Apollo, Calchas, to whom you pray, and whose oracles you reveal to us, not a Danaan at our ships shall lay his hand upon you, while I yet live to look upon the face of the earth- no, not though you name Agamemnon himself, who is by far the foremost of the Achaeans." Thereon the seer spoke boldly. "The god," he said, "is angry neither about vow nor hecatomb, but for his priest's sake, whom Agamemnon has dishonoured, in that he would not free his daughter nor take a ransom for her; therefore has he sent these evils upon us, and will yet send others. He will not deliver the Danaans from this pestilence till Agamemnon has restored the girl without fee or ransom to her father, and has sent a holy hecatomb to Chryse. Thus we may perhaps appease him." With these words he sat down, and Agamemnon rose in anger. His heart was black with rage, and his eyes flashed fire as he scowled on Calchas and said, "Seer of evil, you never yet prophesied smooth things concerning me, but have ever loved to foretell that which was evil. You have brought me neither comfort nor performance; and now you come seeing among Danaans, and saying that Apollo has plagued us because I would not take a ransom for this girl, the daughter of Chryses. I have set my heart on keeping her in my own house, for I love her better even than my own wife Clytemnestra, whose peer she is alike in form and feature, in understanding and accomplishments. Still I will give her up if I must, for I would have the people live, not die; but you must find me a prize instead, or I alone among the Argives shall be without one. This is not well; for you behold, all of you, that my prize is to go elsewhither." And Achilles answered, "Most noble son of Atreus, covetous beyond all mankind, how shall the Achaeans find you another prize? We have no common store from which to take one. Those we took from the cities have been awarded; we cannot disallow the awards that have been made already. Give this girl, therefore, to the god, and if ever Jove grants us to sack the city of Troy we will requite you three and fourfold." Then Agamemnon said, "Achilles, valiant though you be, you shall not thus outwit me. You shall not overreach and you shall not persuade me. Are you to keep your own prize, while I sit tamely under my loss and give up the girl at your bidding? Let the Achaeans find me a prize in fair exchange to my liking, or I will come and take your own, or that of Ajax or of Ulysses; and he to whomsoever I may come shall rue my coming. But of this we will take thought hereafter; for the present, let us draw a ship into the sea, and find a crew for her expressly; let us put a hecatomb on board, and let us send Chryseis also; further, let some chief man among us be in command, either Ajax, or Idomeneus, or yourself, son of Peleus, mighty warrior that you are, that we may offer sacrifice and appease the the anger of the god." Achilles scowled at him and answered, "You are steeped in insolence and lust of gain. With what heart can any of the Achaeans do your bidding, either on foray or in open fighting? I came not warring here for any ill the Trojans had done me. I have no quarrel with them. They have not raided my cattle nor my horses, nor cut down my harvests on the rich plains of Phthia; for between me and them there is a great space, both mountain and sounding sea. We have followed you, Sir Insolence! for your pleasure, not ours- to gain satisfaction from the Trojans for your shameless self and for Menelaus. You forget this, and threaten to rob me of the prize for which I have toiled, and which the sons of the Achaeans have given me. Never when the Achaeans sack any rich city of the Trojans do I receive so good a prize as you do, though it is my hands that do the better part of the fighting. When the sharing comes, your share is far the largest, and I, forsooth, must go back to my ships, take what I can get and be thankful, when my labour of fighting is done. Now, therefore, I shall go back to Phthia; it will be much better for me to return home with my ships, for I will not stay here dishonoured to gather gold and substance for you." And Agamemnon answered, "Fly if you will, I shall make you no prayers to stay you. I have others here who will do me honour, and above all Jove, the lord of counsel. There is no king here so hateful to me as you are, for you are ever quarrelsome and ill affected. What though you be brave? Was it not heaven that made you so? Go home, then, with your ships and comrades to lord it over the Myrmidons. I care neither for you nor for your anger; and thus will I do: since Phoebus Apollo is taking Chryseis from me, I shall send her with my ship and my followers, but I shall come to your tent and take your own prize Briseis, that you may learn how much stronger I am than you are, and that another may fear to set himself up as equal or comparable with me." The son of Peleus was furious, and his heart within his shaggy breast was divided whether to draw his sword, push the others aside, and kill the son of Atreus, or to restrain himself and check his anger. While he was thus in two minds, and was drawing his mighty sword from its scabbard, Minerva came down from heaven (for Juno had sent her in the love she bore to them both), and seized the son of Peleus by his yellow hair, visible to him alone, for of the others no man could see her. Achilles turned in amaze, and by the fire that flashed from her eyes at once knew that she was Minerva. "Why are you here," said he, "daughter of aegis-bearing Jove? To see the pride of Agamemnon, son of Atreus? Let me tell you- and it shall surely be- he shall pay for this insolence with his life." And Minerva said, "I come from heaven, if you will hear me, to bid you stay your anger. Juno has sent me, who cares for both of you alike. Cease, then, this brawling, and do not draw your sword; rail at him if you will, and your railing will not be vain, for I tell you- and it shall surely be- that you shall hereafter receive gifts three times as splendid by reason of this present insult. Hold, therefore, and obey." "Goddess," answered Achilles, "however angry a man may be, he must do as you two command him. This will be best, for the gods ever hear the prayers of him who has obeyed them." He stayed his hand on the silver hilt of his sword, and thrust it back into the scabbard as Minerva bade him. Then she went back to Olympus among the other gods, and to the house of aegis-bearing Jove. But the son of Peleus again began railing at the son of Atreus, for he was still in a rage. "Wine-bibber," he cried, "with the face of a dog and the heart of a hind, you never dare to go out with the host in fight, nor yet with our chosen men in ambuscade. You shun this as you do death itself. You had rather go round and rob his prizes from any man who contradicts you. You devour your people, for you are king over a feeble folk; otherwise, son of Atreus, henceforward you would insult no man. Therefore I say, and swear it with a great oath- nay, by this my sceptre which shalt sprout neither leaf nor shoot, nor bud anew from the day on which it left its parent stem upon the mountains- for the axe stripped it of leaf and bark, and now the sons of the Achaeans bear it as judges and guardians of the decrees of heaven- so surely and solemnly do I swear that hereafter they shall look fondly for Achilles and shall not find him. In the day of your distress, when your men fall dying by the murderous hand of Hector, you shall not know how to help them, and shall rend your heart with rage for the hour when you offered insult to the bravest of the Achaeans." With this the son of Peleus dashed his gold-bestudded sceptre on the ground and took his seat, while the son of Atreus was beginning fiercely from his place upon the other side. Then uprose smooth-tongued Nestor, the facile speaker of the Pylians, and the words fell from his lips sweeter than honey. Two generations of men born and bred in Pylos had passed away under his rule, and he was now reigning over the third. With all sincerity and goodwill, therefore, he addressed them thus:- "Of a truth," he said, "a great sorrow has befallen the Achaean land. Surely Priam with his sons would rejoice, and the Trojans be glad at heart if they could hear this quarrel between you two, who are so excellent in fight and counsel. I am older than either of you; therefore be guided by me. Moreover I have been the familiar friend of men even greater than you are, and they did not disregard my counsels. Never again can I behold such men as Pirithous and Dryas shepherd of his people, or as Caeneus, Exadius, godlike Polyphemus, and Theseus son of Aegeus, peer of the immortals. These were the mightiest men ever born upon this earth: mightiest were they, and when they fought the fiercest tribes of mountain savages they utterly overthrew them. I came from distant Pylos, and went about among them, for they would have me come, and I fought as it was in me to do. Not a man now living could withstand them, but they heard my words, and were persuaded by them. So be it also with yourselves, for this is the more excellent way. Therefore, Agamemnon, though you be strong, take not this girl away, for the sons of the Achaeans have already given her to Achilles; and you, Achilles, strive not further with the king, for no man who by the grace of Jove wields a sceptre has like honour with Agamemnon. You are strong, and have a goddess for your mother; but Agamemnon is stronger than you, for he has more people under him. Son of Atreus, check your anger, I implore you; end this quarrel with Achilles, who in the day of battle is a tower of strength to the Achaeans." And Agamemnon answered, "Sir, all that you have said is true, but this fellow must needs become our lord and master: he must be lord of all, king of all, and captain of all, and this shall hardly be. Granted that the gods have made him a great warrior, have they also given him the right to speak with railing?" Achilles interrupted him. "I should be a mean coward," he cried, "were I to give in to you in all things. Order other people about, not me, for I shall obey no longer. Furthermore I say- and lay my saying to your heart- I shall fight neither you nor any man about this girl, for those that take were those also that gave. But of all else that is at my ship you shall carry away nothing by force. Try, that others may see; if you do, my spear shall be reddened with your blood." When they had quarrelled thus angrily, they rose, and broke up the assembly at the ships of the Achaeans. The son of Peleus went back to his tents and ships with the son of Menoetius and his company, while Agamemnon drew a vessel into the water and chose a crew of twenty oarsmen. He escorted Chryseis on board and sent moreover a hecatomb for the god. And Ulysses went as captain. These, then, went on board and sailed their ways over the sea. But the son of Atreus bade the people purify themselves; so they purified themselves and cast their filth into the sea. Then they offered hecatombs of bulls and goats without blemish on the sea-shore, and the smoke with the savour of their sacrifice rose curling up towards heaven. Thus did they busy themselves throughout the host. But Agamemnon did not forget the threat that he had made Achilles, and called his trusty messengers and squires Talthybius and Eurybates. "Go," said he, "to the tent of Achilles, son of Peleus; take Briseis by the hand and bring her hither; if he will not give her I shall come with others and take her- which will press him harder." He charged them straightly further and dismissed them, whereon they went their way sorrowfully by the seaside, till they came to the tents and ships of the Myrmidons. They found Achilles sitting by his tent and his ships, and ill-pleased he was when he beheld them. They stood fearfully and reverently before him, and never a word did they speak, but he knew them and said, "Welcome, heralds, messengers of gods and men; draw near; my quarrel is not with you but with Agamemnon who has sent you for the girl Briseis. Therefore, Patroclus, bring her and give her to them, but let them be witnesses by the blessed gods, by mortal men, and by the fierceness of Agamemnon's anger, that if ever again there be need of me to save the people from ruin, they shall seek and they shall not find. Agamemnon is mad with rage and knows not how to look before and after that the Achaeans may fight by their ships in safety." Patroclus did as his dear comrade had bidden him. He brought Briseis from the tent and gave her over to the heralds, who took her with them to the ships of the Achaeans- and the woman was loth to go. Then Achilles went all alone by the side of the hoar sea, weeping and looking out upon the boundless waste of waters. He raised his hands in prayer to his immortal mother, "Mother," he cried, "you bore me doomed to live but for a little season; surely Jove, who thunders from Olympus, might have made that little glorious. It is not so. Agamemnon, son of Atreus, has done me dishonour, and has robbed me of my prize by force." As he spoke he wept aloud, and his mother heard him where she was sitting in the depths of the sea hard by the old man her father. Forthwith she rose as it were a grey mist out of the waves, sat down before him as he stood weeping, caressed him with her hand, and said, "My son, why are you weeping? What is it that grieves you? Keep it not from me, but tell me, that we may know it together." Achilles drew a deep sigh and said, "You know it; why tell you what you know well already? We went to Thebe the strong city of Eetion, sacked it, and brought hither the spoil. The sons of the Achaeans shared it duly among themselves, and chose lovely Chryseis as the meed of Agamemnon; but Chryses, priest of Apollo, came to the ships of the Achaeans to free his daughter, and brought with him a great ransom: moreover he bore in his hand the sceptre of Apollo, wreathed with a suppliant's wreath, and he besought the Achaeans, but most of all the two sons of Atreus who were their chiefs. "On this the rest of the Achaeans with one voice were for respecting the priest and taking the ransom that he offered; but not so Agamemnon, who spoke fiercely to him and sent him roughly away. So he went back in anger, and Apollo, who loved him dearly, heard his prayer. Then the god sent a deadly dart upon the Argives, and the people died thick on one another, for the arrows went everywhither among the wide host of the Achaeans. At last a seer in the fulness of his knowledge declared to us the oracles of Apollo, and I was myself first to say that we should appease him. Whereon the son of Atreus rose in anger, and threatened that which he has since done. The Achaeans are now taking the girl in a ship to Chryse, and sending gifts of sacrifice to the god; but the heralds have just taken from my tent the daughter of Briseus, whom the Achaeans had awarded to myself. "Help your brave son, therefore, if you are able. Go to Olympus, and if you have ever done him service in word or deed, implore the aid of Jove. Ofttimes in my father's house have I heard you glory in that you alone of the immortals saved the son of Saturn from ruin, when the others, with Juno, Neptune, and Pallas Minerva would have put him in bonds. It was you, goddess, who delivered him by calling to Olympus the hundred-handed monster whom gods call Briareus, but men Aegaeon, for he is stronger even than his father; when therefore he took his seat all-glorious beside the son of Saturn, the other gods were afraid, and did not bind him. Go, then, to him, remind him of all this, clasp his knees, and bid him give succour to the Trojans. Let the Achaeans be hemmed in at the sterns of their ships, and perish on the sea-shore, that they may reap what joy they may of their king, and that Agamemnon may rue his blindness in offering insult to the foremost of the Achaeans." Thetis wept and answered, "My son, woe is me that I should have borne or suckled you. Would indeed that you had lived your span free from all sorrow at your ships, for it is all too brief; alas, that you should be at once short of life and long of sorrow above your peers: woe, therefore, was the hour in which I bore you; nevertheless I will go to the snowy heights of Olympus, and tell this tale to Jove, if he will hear our prayer: meanwhile stay where you are with your ships, nurse your anger against the Achaeans, and hold aloof from fight. For Jove went yesterday to Oceanus, to a feast among the Ethiopians, and the other gods went with him. He will return to Olympus twelve days hence; I will then go to his mansion paved with bronze and will beseech him; nor do I doubt that I shall be able to persuade him." On this she left him, still furious at the loss of her that had been taken from him. Meanwhile Ulysses reached Chryse with the hecatomb. When they had come inside the harbour they furled the sails and laid them in the ship's hold; they slackened the forestays, lowered the mast into its place, and rowed the ship to the place where they would have her lie; there they cast out their mooring-stones and made fast the hawsers. They then got out upon the sea-shore and landed the hecatomb for Apollo; Chryseis also left the ship, and Ulysses led her to the altar to deliver her into the hands of her father. "Chryses," said he, "King Agamemnon has sent me to bring you back your child, and to offer sacrifice to Apollo on behalf of the Danaans, that we may propitiate the god, who has now brought sorrow upon the Argives." So saying he gave the girl over to her father, who received her gladly, and they ranged the holy hecatomb all orderly round the altar of the god. They washed their hands and took up the barley-meal to sprinkle over the victims, while Chryses lifted up his hands and prayed aloud on their behalf. "Hear me," he cried, "O god of the silver bow, that protectest Chryse and holy Cilla, and rulest Tenedos with thy might. Even as thou didst hear me aforetime when I prayed, and didst press hardly upon the Achaeans, so hear me yet again, and stay this fearful pestilence from the Danaans." Thus did he pray, and Apollo heard his prayer. When they had done praying and sprinkling the barley-meal, they drew back the heads of the victims and killed and flayed them. They cut out the thigh-bones, wrapped them round in two layers of fat, set some pieces of raw meat on the top of them, and then Chryses laid them on the wood fire and poured wine over them, while the young men stood near him with five-pronged spits in their hands. When the thigh-bones were burned and they had tasted the inward meats, they cut the rest up small, put the pieces upon the spits, roasted them till they were done, and drew them off: then, when they had finished their work and the feast was ready, they ate it, and every man had his full share, so that all were satisfied. As soon as they had had enough to eat and drink, pages filled the mixing-bowl with wine and water and handed it round, after giving every man his drink-offering. Thus all day long the young men worshipped the god with song, hymning him and chaunting the joyous paean, and the god took pleasure in their voices; but when the sun went down, and it came on dark, they laid themselves down to sleep by the stern cables of the ship, and when the child of morning, rosy-fingered Dawn, appeared they again set sail for the host of the Achaeans. Apollo sent them a fair wind, so they raised their mast and hoisted their white sails aloft. As the sail bellied with the wind the ship flew through the deep blue water, and the foam hissed against her bows as she sped onward. When they reached the wide-stretching host of the Achaeans, they drew the vessel ashore, high and dry upon the sands, set her strong props beneath her, and went their ways to their own tents and ships. But Achilles abode at his ships and nursed his anger. He went not to the honourable assembly, and sallied not forth to fight, but gnawed at his own heart, pining for battle and the war-cry. Now after twelve days the immortal gods came back in a body to Olympus, and Jove led the way. Thetis was not unmindful of the charge her son had laid upon her, so she rose from under the sea and went through great heaven with early morning to Olympus, where she found the mighty son of Saturn sitting all alone upon its topmost ridges. She sat herself down before him, and with her left hand seized his knees, while with her right she caught him under the chin, and besought him, saying- "Father Jove, if I ever did you service in word or deed among the immortals, hear my prayer, and do honour to my son, whose life is to be cut short so early. King Agamemnon has dishonoured him by taking his prize and keeping her. Honour him then yourself, Olympian lord of counsel, and grant victory to the Trojans, till the Achaeans give my son his due and load him with riches in requital." Jove sat for a while silent, and without a word, but Thetis still kept firm hold of his knees, and besought him a second time. "Incline your head," said she, "and promise me surely, or else deny me- for you have nothing to fear- that I may learn how greatly you disdain me." At this Jove was much troubled and answered, "I shall have trouble if you set me quarrelling with Juno, for she will provoke me with her taunting speeches; even now she is always railing at me before the other gods and accusing me of giving aid to the Trojans. Go back now, lest she should find out. I will consider the matter, and will bring it about as wish. See, I incline my head that you believe me. This is the most solemn that I can give to any god. I never recall my word, or deceive, or fail to do what I say, when I have nodded my head." As he spoke the son of Saturn bowed his dark brows, and the ambrosial locks swayed on his immortal head, till vast Olympus reeled. When the pair had thus laid their plans, they parted- Jove to his house, while the goddess quitted the splendour of Olympus, and plunged into the depths of the sea. The gods rose from their seats, before the coming of their sire. Not one of them dared to remain sitting, but all stood up as he came among them. There, then, he took his seat. But Juno, when she saw him, knew that he and the old merman's daughter, silver-footed Thetis, had been hatching mischief, so she at once began to upbraid him. "Trickster," she cried, "which of the gods have you been taking into your counsels now? You are always settling matters in secret behind my back, and have never yet told me, if you could help it, one word of your intentions." "Juno," replied the sire of gods and men, "you must not expect to be informed of all my counsels. You are my wife, but you would find it hard to understand them. When it is proper for you to hear, there is no one, god or man, who will be told sooner, but when I mean to keep a matter to myself, you must not pry nor ask questions." "Dread son of Saturn," answered Juno, "what are you talking about? I? Pry and ask questions? Never. I let you have your own way in everything. Still, I have a strong misgiving that the old merman's daughter Thetis has been talking you over, for she was with you and had hold of your knees this self-same morning. I believe, therefore, that you have been promising her to give glory to Achilles, and to kill much people at the ships of the Achaeans." "Wife," said Jove, "I can do nothing but you suspect me and find it out. You will take nothing by it, for I shall only dislike you the more, and it will go harder with you. Granted that it is as you say; I mean to have it so; sit down and hold your tongue as I bid you for if I once begin to lay my hands about you, though all heaven were on your side it would profit you nothing." On this Juno was frightened, so she curbed her stubborn will and sat down in silence. But the heavenly beings were disquieted throughout the house of Jove, till the cunning workman Vulcan began to try and pacify his mother Juno. "It will be intolerable," said he, "if you two fall to wrangling and setting heaven in an uproar about a pack of mortals. If such ill counsels are to prevail, we shall have no pleasure at our banquet. Let me then advise my mother- and she must herself know that it will be better- to make friends with my dear father Jove, lest he again scold her and disturb our feast. If the Olympian Thunderer wants to hurl us all from our seats, he can do so, for he is far the strongest, so give him fair words, and he will then soon be in a good humour with us." As he spoke, he took a double cup of nectar, and placed it in his mother's hand. "Cheer up, my dear mother," said he, "and make the best of it. I love you dearly, and should be very sorry to see you get a thrashing; however grieved I might be, I could not help for there is no standing against Jove. Once before when I was trying to help you, he caught me by the foot and flung me from the heavenly threshold. All day long from morn till eve, was I falling, till at sunset I came to ground in the island of Lemnos, and there I lay, with very little life left in me, till the Sintians came and tended me." Juno smiled at this, and as she smiled she took the cup from her son's hands. Then Vulcan drew sweet nectar from the mixing-bowl, and served it round among the gods, going from left to right; and the blessed gods laughed out a loud applause as they saw him ing bustling about the heavenly mansion. Thus through the livelong day to the going down of the sun they feasted, and every one had his full share, so that all were satisfied. Apollo struck his lyre, and the Muses lifted up their sweet voices, calling and answering one another. But when the sun's glorious light had faded, they went home to bed, each in his own abode, which lame Vulcan with his consummate skill had fashioned for them. So Jove, the Olympian Lord of Thunder, hied him to the bed in which he always slept; and when he had got on to it he went to sleep, with Juno of the golden throne by his side. Now the other gods and the armed warriors on the plain slept soundly, but Jove was wakeful, for he was thinking how to do honour to Achilles, and destroyed much people at the ships of the Achaeans. In the end he deemed it would be best to send a lying dream to King Agamemnon; so he called one to him and said to it, "Lying Dream, go to the ships of the Achaeans, into the tent of Agamemnon, and say to him word to word as I now bid you. Tell him to get the Achaeans instantly under arms, for he shall take Troy. There are no longer divided counsels among the gods; Juno has brought them to her own mind, and woe betides the Trojans." The dream went when it had heard its message, and soon reached the ships of the Achaeans. It sought Agamemnon son of Atreus and found him in his tent, wrapped in a profound slumber. It hovered over his head in the likeness of Nestor, son of Neleus, whom Agamemnon honoured above all his councillors, and said:- "You are sleeping, son of Atreus; one who has the welfare of his host and so much other care upon his shoulders should dock his sleep. Hear me at once, for I come as a messenger from Jove, who, though he be not near, yet takes thought for you and pities you. He bids you get the Achaeans instantly under arms, for you shall take Troy. There are no longer divided counsels among the gods; Juno has brought them over to her own mind, and woe betides the Trojans at the hands of Jove. Remember this, and when you wake see that it does not escape you." The dream then left him, and he thought of things that were, surely not to be accomplished. He thought that on that same day he was to take the city of Priam, but he little knew what was in the mind of Jove, who had many another hard-fought fight in store alike for Danaans and Trojans. Then presently he woke, with the divine message still ringing in his ears; so he sat upright, and put on his soft shirt so fair and new, and over this his heavy cloak. He bound his sandals on to his comely feet, and slung his silver-studded sword about his shoulders; then he took the imperishable staff of his father, and sallied forth to the ships of the Achaeans. The goddess Dawn now wended her way to vast Olympus that she might herald day to Jove and to the other immortals, and Agamemnon sent the criers round to call the people in assembly; so they called them and the people gathered thereon. But first he summoned a meeting of the elders at the ship of Nestor king of Pylos, and when they were assembled he laid a cunning counsel before them. "My friends," said he, "I have had a dream from heaven in the dead of night, and its face and figure resembled none but Nestor's. It hovered over my head and said, 'You are sleeping, son of Atreus; one who has the welfare of his host and so much other care upon his shoulders should dock his sleep. Hear me at once, for I am a messenger from Jove, who, though he be not near, yet takes thought for you and pities you. He bids you get the Achaeans instantly under arms, for you shall take Troy. There are no longer divided counsels among the gods; Juno has brought them over to her own mind, and woe betides the Trojans at the hands of Jove. Remember this.' The dream then vanished and I awoke. Let us now, therefore, arm the sons of the Achaeans. But it will be well that I should first sound them, and to this end I will tell them to fly with their ships; but do you others go about among the host and prevent their doing so." He then sat down, and Nestor the prince of Pylos with all sincerity and goodwill addressed them thus: "My friends," said he, "princes and councillors of the Argives, if any other man of the Achaeans had told us of this dream we should have declared it false, and would have had nothing to do with it. But he who has seen it is the foremost man among us; we must therefore set about getting the people under arms." With this he led the way from the assembly, and the other sceptred kings rose with him in obedience to the word of Agamemnon; but the people pressed forward to hear. They swarmed like bees that sally from some hollow cave and flit in countless throng among the spring flowers, bunched in knots and clusters; even so did the mighty multitude pour from ships and tents to the assembly, and range themselves upon the wide-watered shore, while among them ran Wildfire Rumour, messenger of Jove, urging them ever to the fore. Thus they gathered in a pell-mell of mad confusion, and the earth groaned under the tramp of men as the people sought their places. Nine heralds went crying about among them to stay their tumult and bid them listen to the kings, till at last they were got into their several places and ceased their clamour. Then King Agamemnon rose, holding his sceptre. This was the work of Vulcan, who gave it to Jove the son of Saturn. Jove gave it to Mercury, slayer of Argus, guide and guardian. King Mercury gave it to Pelops, the mighty charioteer, and Pelops to Atreus, shepherd of his people. Atreus, when he died, left it to Thyestes, rich in flocks, and Thyestes in his turn left it to be borne by Agamemnon, that he might be lord of all Argos and of the isles. Leaning, then, on his sceptre, he addressed the Argives. "My friends," he said, "heroes, servants of Mars, the hand of heaven has been laid heavily upon me. Cruel Jove gave me his solemn promise that I should sack the city of Priam before returning, but he has played me false, and is now bidding me go ingloriously back to Argos with the loss of much people. Such is the will of Jove, who has laid many a proud city in the dust, as he will yet lay others, for his power is above all. It will be a sorry tale hereafter that an Achaean host, at once so great and valiant, battled in vain against men fewer in number than themselves; but as yet the end is not in sight. Think that the Achaeans and Trojans have sworn to a solemn covenant, and that they have each been numbered- the Trojans by the roll of their householders, and we by companies of ten; think further that each of our companies desired to have a Trojan householder to pour out their wine; we are so greatly more in number that full many a company would have to go without its cup-bearer. But they have in the town allies from other places, and it is these that hinder me from being able to sack the rich city of Ilius. Nine of Jove years are gone; the timbers of our ships have rotted; their tackling is sound no longer. Our wives and little ones at home look anxiously for our coming, but the work that we came hither to do has not been done. Now, therefore, let us all do as I say: let us sail back to our own land, for we shall not take Troy." With these words he moved the hearts of the multitude, so many of them as knew not the cunning counsel of Agamemnon. They surged to and fro like the waves of the Icarian Sea, when the east and south winds break from heaven's clouds to lash them; or as when the west wind sweeps over a field of corn and the ears bow beneath the blast, even so were they swayed as they flew with loud cries towards the ships, and the dust from under their feet rose heavenward. They cheered each other on to draw the ships into the sea; they cleared the channels in front of them; they began taking away the stays from underneath them, and the welkin rang with their glad cries, so eager were they to return. Then surely the Argives would have returned after a fashion that was not fated. But Juno said to Minerva, "Alas, daughter of aegis-bearing Jove, unweariable, shall the Argives fly home to their own land over the broad sea, and leave Priam and the Trojans the glory of still keeping Helen, for whose sake so many of the Achaeans have died at Troy, far from their homes? Go about at once among the host, and speak fairly to them, man by man, that they draw not their ships into the sea." Minerva was not slack to do her bidding. Down she darted from the topmost summits of Olympus, and in a moment she was at the ships of the Achaeans. There she found Ulysses, peer of Jove in counsel, standing alone. He had not as yet laid a hand upon his ship, for he was grieved and sorry; so she went close up to him and said, "Ulysses, noble son of Laertes, are you going to fling yourselves into your ships and be off home to your own land in this way? Will you leave Priam and the Trojans the glory of still keeping Helen, for whose sake so many of the Achaeans have died at Troy, far from their homes? Go about at once among the host, and speak fairly to them, man by man, that they draw not their ships into the sea." Ulysses knew the voice as that of the goddess: he flung his cloak from him and set off to run. His servant Eurybates, a man of Ithaca, who waited on him, took charge of the cloak, whereon Ulysses went straight up to Agamemnon and received from him his ancestral, imperishable staff. With this he went about among the ships of the Achaeans. Whenever he met a king or chieftain, he stood by him and spoke him fairly. "Sir," said he, "this flight is cowardly and unworthy. Stand to your post, and bid your people also keep their places. You do not yet know the full mind of Agamemnon; he was sounding us, and ere long will visit the Achaeans with his displeasure. We were not all of us at the council to hear what he then said; see to it lest he be angry and do us a mischief; for the pride of kings is great, and the hand of Jove is with them." But when he came across any common man who was making a noise, he struck him with his staff and rebuked him, saying, "Sirrah, hold your peace, and listen to better men than yourself. You are a coward and no soldier; you are nobody either in fight or council; we cannot all be kings; it is not well that there should be many masters; one man must be supreme- one king to whom the son of scheming Saturn has given the sceptre of sovereignty over you all." Thus masterfully did he go about among the host, and the people hurried back to the council from their tents and ships with a sound as the thunder of surf when it comes crashing down upon the shore, and all the sea is in an uproar. The rest now took their seats and kept to their own several places, but Thersites still went on wagging his unbridled tongue- a man of many words, and those unseemly; a monger of sedition, a railer against all who were in authority, who cared not what he said, so that he might set the Achaeans in a laugh. He was the ugliest man of all those that came before Troy- bandy-legged, lame of one foot, with his two shoulders rounded and hunched over his chest. His head ran up to a point, but there was little hair on the top of it. Achilles and Ulysses hated him worst of all, for it was with them that he was most wont to wrangle; now, however, with a shrill squeaky voice he began heaping his abuse on Agamemnon. The Achaeans were angry and disgusted, yet none the less he kept on brawling and bawling at the son of Atreus. "Agamemnon," he cried, "what ails you now, and what more do you want? Your tents are filled with bronze and with fair women, for whenever we take a town we give you the pick of them. Would you have yet more gold, which some Trojan is to give you as a ransom for his son, when I or another Achaean has taken him prisoner? or is it some young girl to hide and lie with? It is not well that you, the ruler of the Achaeans, should bring them into such misery. Weakling cowards, women rather than men, let us sail home, and leave this fellow here at Troy to stew in his own meeds of honour, and discover whether we were of any service to him or no. Achilles is a much better man than he is, and see how he has treated him- robbing him of his prize and keeping it himself. Achilles takes it meekly and shows no fight; if he did, son of Atreus, you would never again insult him." Thus railed Thersites, but Ulysses at once went up to him and rebuked him sternly. "Check your glib tongue, Thersites," said be, "and babble not a word further. Chide not with princes when you have none to back you. There is no viler creature come before Troy with the sons of Atreus. Drop this chatter about kings, and neither revile them nor keep harping about going home. We do not yet know how things are going to be, nor whether the Achaeans are to return with good success or evil. How dare you gibe at Agamemnon because the Danaans have awarded him so many prizes? I tell you, therefore- and it shall surely be- that if I again catch you talking such nonsense, I will either forfeit my own head and be no more called father of Telemachus, or I will take you, strip you stark naked, and whip you out of the assembly till you go blubbering back to the ships." On this he beat him with his staff about the back and shoulders till he dropped and fell a-weeping. The golden sceptre raised a bloody weal on his back, so he sat down frightened and in pain, looking foolish as he wiped the tears from his eyes. The people were sorry for him, yet they laughed heartily, and one would turn to his neighbour saying, "Ulysses has done many a good thing ere now in fight and council, but he never did the Argives a better turn than when he stopped this fellow's mouth from prating further. He will give the kings no more of his insolence." Thus said the people. Then Ulysses rose, sceptre in hand, and Minerva in the likeness of a herald bade the people be still, that those who were far off might hear him and consider his council. He therefore with all sincerity and goodwill addressed them thus:- "King Agamemnon, the Achaeans are for making you a by-word among all mankind. They forget the promise they made you when they set out from Argos, that you should not return till you had sacked the town of Troy, and, like children or widowed women, they murmur and would set off homeward. True it is that they have had toil enough to be disheartened. A man chafes at having to stay away from his wife even for a single month, when he is on shipboard, at the mercy of wind and sea, but it is now nine long years that we have been kept here; I cannot, therefore, blame the Achaeans if they turn restive; still we shall be shamed if we go home empty after so long a stay- therefore, my friends, be patient yet a little longer that we may learn whether the prophesyings of Calchas were false or true. "All who have not since perished must remember as though it were yesterday or the day before, how the ships of the Achaeans were detained in Aulis when we were on our way hither to make war on Priam and the Trojans. We were ranged round about a fountain offering hecatombs to the gods upon their holy altars, and there was a fine plane-tree from beneath which there welled a stream of pure water. Then we saw a prodigy; for Jove sent a fearful serpent out of the ground, with blood-red stains upon its back, and it darted from under the altar on to the plane-tree. Now there was a brood of young sparrows, quite small, upon the topmost bough, peeping out from under the leaves, eight in all, and their mother that hatched them made nine. The serpent ate the poor cheeping things, while the old bird flew about lamenting her little ones; but the serpent threw his coils about her and caught her by the wing as she was screaming. Then, when he had eaten both the sparrow and her young, the god who had sent him made him become a sign; for the son of scheming Saturn turned him into stone, and we stood there wondering at that which had come to pass. Seeing, then, that such a fearful portent had broken in upon our hecatombs, Calchas forthwith declared to us the oracles of heaven. 'Why, Achaeans,' said he, 'are you thus speechless? Jove has sent us this sign, long in coming, and long ere it be fulfilled, though its fame shall last for ever. As the serpent ate the eight fledglings and the sparrow that hatched them, which makes nine, so shall we fight nine years at Troy, but in the tenth shall take the town.' This was what he said, and now it is all coming true. Stay here, therefore, all of you, till we take the city of Priam." On this the Argives raised a shout, till the ships rang again with the uproar. Nestor, knight of Gerene, then addressed them. "Shame on you," he cried, "to stay talking here like children, when you should fight like men. Where are our covenants now, and where the oaths that we have taken? Shall our counsels be flung into the fire, with our drink-offerings and the right hands of fellowship wherein we have put our trust? We waste our time in words, and for all our talking here shall be no further forward. Stand, therefore, son of Atreus, by your own steadfast purpose; lead the Argives on to battle, and leave this handful of men to rot, who scheme, and scheme in vain, to get back to Argos ere they have learned whether Jove be true or a liar. For the mighty son of Saturn surely promised that we should succeed, when we Argives set sail to bring death and destruction upon the Trojans. He showed us favourable signs by flashing his lightning on our right hands; therefore let none make haste to go till he has first lain with the wife of some Trojan, and avenged the toil and sorrow that he has suffered for the sake of Helen. Nevertheless, if any man is in such haste to be at home again, let him lay his hand to his ship that he may meet his doom in the sight of all. But, O king, consider and give ear to my counsel, for the word that I say may not be neglected lightly. Divide your men, Agamemnon, into their several tribes and clans, that clans and tribes may stand by and help one another. If you do this, and if the Achaeans obey you, you will find out who, both chiefs and peoples, are brave, and who are cowards; for they will vie against the other. Thus you shall also learn whether it is through the counsel of heaven or the cowardice of man that you shall fail to take the town." And Agamemnon answered, "Nestor, you have again outdone the sons of the Achaeans in counsel. Would, by Father Jove, Minerva, and Apollo, that I had among them ten more such councillors, for the city of King Priam would then soon fall beneath our hands, and we should sack it. But the son of Saturn afflicts me with bootless wranglings and strife. Achilles and I are quarrelling about this girl, in which matter I was the first to offend; if we can be of one mind again, the Trojans will not stave off destruction for a day. Now, therefore, get your morning meal, that our hosts join in fight. Whet well your spears; see well to the ordering of your shields; give good feeds to your horses, and look your chariots carefully over, that we may do battle the livelong day; for we shall have no rest, not for a moment, till night falls to part us. The bands that bear your shields shall be wet with the sweat upon your shoulders, your hands shall weary upon your spears, your horses shall steam in front of your chariots, and if I see any man shirking the fight, or trying to keep out of it at the ships, there shall be no help for him, but he shall be a prey to dogs and vultures." Thus he spoke, and the Achaeans roared applause. As when the waves run high before the blast of the south wind and break on some lofty headland, dashing against it and buffeting it without ceasing, as the storms from every quarter drive them, even so did the Achaeans rise and hurry in all directions to their ships. There they lighted their fires at their tents and got dinner, offering sacrifice every man to one or other of the gods, and praying each one of them that he might live to come out of the fight. Agamemnon, king of men, sacrificed a fat five-year-old bull to the mighty son of Saturn, and invited the princes and elders of his host. First he asked Nestor and King Idomeneus, then the two Ajaxes and the son of Tydeus, and sixthly Ulysses, peer of gods in counsel; but Menelaus came of his own accord, for he knew how busy his brother then was. They stood round the bull with the barley-meal in their hands, and Agamemnon prayed, saying, "Jove, most glorious, supreme, that dwellest in heaven, and ridest upon the storm-cloud, grant that the sun may not go down, nor the night fall, till the palace of Priam is laid low, and its gates are consumed with fire. Grant that my sword may pierce the shirt of Hector about his heart, and that full many of his comrades may bite the dust as they fall dying round him." Thus he prayed, but the son of Saturn would not fulfil his prayer. He accepted the sacrifice, yet none the less increased their toil continually. When they had done praying and sprinkling the barley-meal upon the victim, they drew back its head, killed it, and then flayed it. They cut out the thigh-bones, wrapped them round in two layers of fat, and set pieces of raw meat on the top of them. These they burned upon the split logs of firewood, but they spitted the inward meats, and held them in the flames to cook. When the thigh-bones were burned, and they had tasted the inward meats, they cut the rest up small, put the pieces upon spits, roasted them till they were done, and drew them off; then, when they had finished their work and the feast was ready, they ate it, and every man had his full share, so that all were satisfied. As soon as they had had enough to eat and drink, Nestor, knight of Gerene, began to speak. "King Agamemnon," said he, "let us not stay talking here, nor be slack in the work that heaven has put into our hands. Let the heralds summon the people to gather at their several ships; we will then go about among the host, that we may begin fighting at once." Thus did he speak, and Agamemnon heeded his words. He at once sent the criers round to call the people in assembly. So they called them, and the people gathered thereon. The chiefs about the son of Atreus chose their men and marshalled them, while Minerva went among them holding her priceless aegis that knows neither age nor death. From it there waved a hundred tassels of pure gold, all deftly woven, and each one of them worth a hundred oxen. With this she darted furiously everywhere among the hosts of the Achaeans, urging them forward, and putting courage into the heart of each, so that he might fight and do battle without ceasing. Thus war became sweeter in their eyes even than returning home in their ships. As when some great forest fire is raging upon a mountain top and its light is seen afar, even so as they marched the gleam of their armour flashed up into the firmament of heaven. They were like great flocks of geese, or cranes, or swans on the plain about the waters of Cayster, that wing their way hither and thither, glorying in the pride of flight, and crying as they settle till the fen is alive with their screaming. Even thus did their tribes pour from ships and tents on to the plain of the Scamander, and the ground rang as brass under the feet of men and horses. They stood as thick upon the flower-bespangled field as leaves that bloom in summer. As countless swarms of flies buzz around a herdsman's homestead in the time of spring when the pails are drenched with milk, even so did the Achaeans swarm on to the plain to charge the Trojans and destroy them. The chiefs disposed their men this way and that before the fight began, drafting them out as easily as goatherds draft their flocks when they have got mixed while feeding; and among them went King Agamemnon, with a head and face like Jove the lord of thunder, a waist like Mars, and a chest like that of Neptune. As some great bull that lords it over the herds upon the plain, even so did Jove make the son of Atreus stand peerless among the multitude of heroes. And now, O Muses, dwellers in the mansions of Olympus, tell me- for you are goddesses and are in all places so that you see all things, while we know nothing but by report- who were the chiefs and princes of the Danaans? As for the common soldiers, they were so that I could not name every single one of them though I had ten tongues, and though my voice failed not and my heart were of bronze within me, unless you, O Olympian Muses, daughters of aegis-bearing Jove, were to recount them to me. Nevertheless, I will tell the captains of the ships and all the fleet together. Peneleos, Leitus, Arcesilaus, Prothoenor, and Clonius were captains of the Boeotians. These were they that dwelt in Hyria and rocky Aulis, and who held Schoenus, Scolus, and the highlands of Eteonus, with Thespeia, Graia, and the fair city of Mycalessus. They also held Harma, Eilesium, and Erythrae; and they had Eleon, Hyle, and Peteon; Ocalea and the strong fortress of Medeon; Copae, Eutresis, and Thisbe the haunt of doves; Coronea, and the pastures of Haliartus; Plataea and Glisas; the fortress of Thebes the less; holy Onchestus with its famous grove of Neptune; Arne rich in vineyards; Midea, sacred Nisa, and Anthedon upon the sea. From these there came fifty ships, and in each there were a hundred and twenty young men of the Boeotians. Ascalaphus and Ialmenus, sons of Mars, led the people that dwelt in Aspledon and Orchomenus the realm of Minyas. Astyoche a noble maiden bore them in the house of Actor son of Azeus; for she had gone with Mars secretly into an upper chamber, and he had lain with her. With these there came thirty ships. The Phoceans were led by Schedius and Epistrophus, sons of mighty Iphitus the son of Naubolus. These were they that held Cyparissus, rocky Pytho, holy Crisa, Daulis, and Panopeus; they also that dwelt in Anemorea and Hyampolis, and about the waters of the river Cephissus, and Lilaea by the springs of the Cephissus; with their chieftains came forty ships, and they marshalled the forces of the Phoceans, which were stationed next to the Boeotians, on their left. Ajax, the fleet son of Oileus, commanded the Locrians. He was not so great, nor nearly so great, as Ajax the son of Telamon. He was a little man, and his breastplate was made of linen, but in use of the spear he excelled all the Hellenes and the Achaeans. These dwelt in Cynus, Opous, Calliarus, Bessa, Scarphe, fair Augeae, Tarphe, and Thronium about the river Boagrius. With him there came forty ships of the Locrians who dwell beyond Euboea. The fierce Abantes held Euboea with its cities, Chalcis, Eretria, Histiaea rich in vines, Cerinthus upon the sea, and the rock-perched town of Dium; with them were also the men of Carystus and Styra; Elephenor of the race of Mars was in command of these; he was son of Chalcodon, and chief over all the Abantes. With him they came, fleet of foot and wearing their hair long behind, brave warriors, who would ever strive to tear open the corslets of their foes with their long ashen spears. Of these there came fifty ships. And they that held the strong city of Athens, the people of great Erechtheus, who was born of the soil itself, but Jove's daughter, Minerva, fostered him, and established him at Athens in her own rich sanctuary. There, year by year, the Athenian youths worship him with sacrifices of bulls and rams. These were commanded by Menestheus, son of Peteos. No man living could equal him in the marshalling of chariots and foot soldiers. Nestor could alone rival him, for he was older. With him there came fifty ships. Ajax brought twelve ships from Salamis, and stationed them alongside those of the Athenians. The men of Argos, again, and those who held the walls of Tiryns, with Hermione, and Asine upon the gulf; Troezene, Eionae, and the vineyard lands of Epidaurus; the Achaean youths, moreover, who came from Aegina and Mases; these were led by Diomed of the loud battle-cry, and Sthenelus son of famed Capaneus. With them in command was Euryalus, son of king Mecisteus, son of Talaus; but Diomed was chief over them all. With these there came eighty ships. Those who held the strong city of Mycenae, rich Corinth and Cleonae; Orneae, Araethyrea, and Licyon, where Adrastus reigned of old; Hyperesia, high Gonoessa, and Pellene; Aegium and all the coast-land round about Helice; these sent a hundred ships under the command of King Agamemnon, son of Atreus. His force was far both finest and most numerous, and in their midst was the king himself, all glorious in his armour of gleaming bronze- foremost among the heroes, for he was the greatest king, and had most men under him. And those that dwelt in Lacedaemon, lying low among the hills, Pharis, Sparta, with Messe the haunt of doves; Bryseae, Augeae, Amyclae, and Helos upon the sea; Laas, moreover, and Oetylus; these were led by Menelaus of the loud battle-cry, brother to Agamemnon, and of them there were sixty ships, drawn up apart from the others. Among them went Menelaus himself, strong in zeal, urging his men to fight; for he longed to avenge the toil and sorrow that he had suffered for the sake of Helen. The men of Pylos and Arene, and Thryum where is the ford of the river Alpheus; strong Aipy, Cyparisseis, and Amphigenea; Pteleum, Helos, and Dorium, where the Muses met Thamyris, and stilled his minstrelsy for ever. He was returning from Oechalia, where Eurytus lived and reigned, and boasted that he would surpass even the Muses, daughters of aegis-bearing Jove, if they should sing against him; whereon they were angry, and maimed him. They robbed him of his divine power of song, and thenceforth he could strike the lyre no more. These were commanded by Nestor, knight of Gerene, and with him there came ninety ships. And those that held Arcadia, under the high mountain of Cyllene, near the tomb of Aepytus, where the people fight hand to hand; the men of Pheneus also, and Orchomenus rich in flocks; of Rhipae, Stratie, and bleak Enispe; of Tegea and fair Mantinea; of Stymphelus and Parrhasia; of these King Agapenor son of Ancaeus was commander, and they had sixty ships. Many Arcadians, good soldiers, came in each one of them, but Agamemnon found them the ships in which to cross the sea, for they were not a people that occupied their business upon the waters. The men, moreover, of Buprasium and of Elis, so much of it as is enclosed between Hyrmine, Myrsinus upon the sea-shore, the rock Olene and Alesium. These had four leaders, and each of them had ten ships, with many Epeans on board. Their captains were Amphimachus and Thalpius- the one, son of Cteatus, and the other, of Eurytus- both of the race of Actor. The two others were Diores, son of Amarynces, and Polyxenus, son of King Agasthenes, son of Augeas. And those of Dulichium with the sacred Echinean islands, who dwelt beyond the sea off Elis; these were led by Meges, peer of Mars, and the son of valiant Phyleus, dear to Jove, who quarrelled with his father, and went to settle in Dulichium. With him there came forty ships. Ulysses led the brave Cephallenians, who held Ithaca, Neritum with its forests, Crocylea, rugged Aegilips, Samos and Zacynthus, with the mainland also that was over against the islands. These were led by Ulysses, peer of Jove in counsel, and with him there came twelve ships. Thoas, son of Andraemon, commanded the Aetolians, who dwelt in Pleuron, Olenus, Pylene, Chalcis by the sea, and rocky Calydon, for the great king Oeneus had now no sons living, and was himself dead, as was also golden-haired Meleager, who had been set over the Aetolians to be their king. And with Thoas there came forty ships. The famous spearsman Idomeneus led the Cretans, who held Cnossus, and the well-walled city of Gortys; Lyctus also, Miletus and Lycastus that lies upon the chalk; the populous towns of Phaestus and Rhytium, with the other peoples that dwelt in the hundred cities of Crete. All these were led by Idomeneus, and by Meriones, peer of murderous Mars. And with these there came eighty ships. Tlepolemus, son of Hercules, a man both brave and large of stature, brought nine ships of lordly warriors from Rhodes. These dwelt in Rhodes which is divided among the three cities of Lindus, Ielysus, and Cameirus, that lies upon the chalk. These were commanded by Tlepolemus, son of Hercules by Astyochea, whom he had carried off from Ephyra, on the river Selleis, after sacking many cities of valiant warriors. When Tlepolemus grew up, he killed his father's uncle Licymnius, who had been a famous warrior in his time, but was then grown old. On this he built himself a fleet, gathered a great following, and fled beyond the sea, for he was menaced by the other sons and grandsons of Hercules. After a voyage. during which he suffered great h

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